Actually it does.

Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God proves true. He is a shield to all who come to him for protection.

John 17:17
Make them holy by your truth; teach them your word, which is truth.

It states everything as historically factual without a disclaimer that its fiction or just a metaphorical/allegorical story.

So the meme stands

This post was edited by addone on Jan 18 2026 10:55pm

Saved from what exactly? My life is great, I have all this extra time that is not taken up worshipping an invisible magician. And most importantly I have all this extra money that the church would want to get its grubby hands on. Nty I am better off in nearly every way by not being religious. I'll probably live longer as well.

Countries with lower numbers of religious people tend to live longer. In fact some of the most religious countries on earth all tend to have the shortest lifespans lmao
Like Somalia and Nigeria reported to be most religious of all countries vs Japan and Sweden who are the least.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 18 2026 11:24pm

It assumes that God exists. It does not attempt to prove it. Do you understand the distinction?

You are correct someone could of switch bodies or made up a story. This is why multiple independent sources strengthen the case. Not just 1 but hundreds or even thousands. Napoleon had entire armies to command, there are too many people who fought along side him. Even his enemies made plenty of literature on the guy it would be very difficult to get so many thousands if not millions of people to all be in on some kind of a prank to fabricate a fake ruler of their country. That is what we call overwhelming evidence.

All we have of jesus is an old dusty book with 0 independent sources who never met or saw any of the things he claims he did. We don't even know who wrote parts of the bible, could of been anyone. That is what we call extremely poor evidence.

Now you are trying to justify that christianity is true because it won a popularity contest... who cares if lots of people believe in magic this is called a lemming effect where you just go with majority for no other reason than everyone does it. Lots of people used to smoke now its not hip and hardly anyone smokes today. Just another npc jumping on the latest trend. Don't be that guy.

If you don't view yourself as Christian then why are you defending their fake story? The whole point of this exercise is to show people how fake and unsubstantiated the entire religion is.

That is what attempting to prove something looks like. When you declare the words to be true, list things as historical facts and assume god exists you are in fact attempting to put proof on display..

I don't think you even understand the meme. Describe it in your own words because I think you are confused.

It's not just a book. It's a book that has changed the whole course of history, and created the biggest religion on Earth. The way Jesus impacted the world is incomparably greater than the way Napoleon did. You try yourself to simply 'write a book about a guy that has magic powers'. Can you do it? You can. Will it change the world like the scripture? No.



No, I am not trying to do that. As I said before, there is some overlap in what I believe in and the Christian doctrine. But I don't believe in everything that Christianity claims. That is my stance.

So, never in my replies will you see that I was claiming that Christianity is true (read -> one true religion), I was simply saying that Jesus existed in real life. Why was I saying that he was a real person? Simply because you asked me that question, and then you persisted claiming Jesus isn't real/probably isn't real.
As far as I am concerned, we can drop it - the argument about whether Jesus existed. I don't get offended or anything when you say that Christianity isn't true, I am simply replying to comments.



I am not defending their story. I first asked you if you believe that God is real, and your answer seemed to be leaning towards that He isn't, so I challenged your stance in post #17. Then you asked me about Jesus, I said that I believe he existed, you claimed otherwise. Note that I was never 'defending their story' (as you put it), I said that Jesus existed in real life, and then you challenged that.






Thanks.
The first one claims he became flesh, not that he stays in flesh forever.

John 1:14 is:
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

It doesn't really state that he stayed in flesh forever.

I would say that this one is the strongest supporter of Jesus still existing in the flesh:
Acts 1:9–11
“And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight… This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

I explained why it is absolutely necessary he remains in the flesh, this is the problem with 'bible alone' and your own private interpretations, the bible is the tradition of the Church. Christ set up apostles to lead His Church, he did not come to deliver a book.

It is 100% necessary Christ remains in the flesh, else there is no path to salvation for humanity.

if bible quotes you prefer rather than understanding christianity
1 Timothy 2:5
"For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus."
Christ remains fully Man
Acts 7:56
"Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!"
Saint Stephen sees Christ (Son of Man) just before he dies as the first martyr.

also as I mentioned in the last post Matthew 26:64



“You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”


there's numerous examples and as I said the entire possibility of salvation falls apart if somehow the hypostatic union no longer is, Christ assumed Human nature to unite us with God. One act uniting our entire ontological nature to God.

This post was edited by majorblood on Jan 19 2026 02:30am

Just because something is popular and highly influential doesn't make it true. This is called bandwagon fallacy or Argumentum ad populum. I dont care about how helpful an imaginary friend can be. In this thread all I want to find out if this friend is real or imaginary. This is about truth.

So you are not a Christian but believe in Jesus, how does that work exactly? The entire point of Christianity is that you believe in christ and accept that he died for your sins. Either you are calling jesus a liar or you don't really believe in him. Because there is no kind of believing here. Whats next you will tell me you are a Buddhist but dont believe in Buddha?

You have some confusing logic can't tell if you are trolling or just a strage guy.

There is a difference between believing that Jesus existed and believing the whole Christian doctrine. I really don't understand what is so hard to understand there?

Regarding Buddhism I believe that Buddha existed but I don't believe the whole Buddhist doctrine (though I believe that there is some truth in it).

So you are some kind of a window shopper who just goes around and tries on different religions but doesn't really believe them only the parts that sound good. Am I getting closer?