We would be doing them a big favor even if they can't see it.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 16 2026 01:15pm

What version or edition of the crusades are we on?
I lost count after 30

The narrative outlined above ignores some basic facts:

1. The U.S. and U.K. dismantled Iran’s fledgling democracy, installing a dictator who oppressed his people at their behest while controlling Iran’s oil.
2. The West did not “welcome unrest” — it actively created it through bombings, sanctions, and covert operations, even inciting terror on the ground.
3. If a society with thousands of years of history is “broken,” it’s worth asking who actually broke it (see point 1).
4. Framing conflict as inherent to Iranian culture ignores points 1–3 entirely.
5. Overwhelming force is treated as standard U.S. and Israeli doctrine; much of the world sees the human cost and questions its efficacy.
6. Madeleine Albright famously said after half a million Iraqi children died under sanctions, “we think the price is worth it.” In Gaza, 70,000+ deaths were rationalized. What hope is there for Iran?
7. Finally, resource extraction is treated as justified — it’s not Iranian oil, it’s “U.S. oil.” The same logic has been applied in Venezuela.

Aren't we all just self serving creatures and its the survival of the fittest?

At this point the waters have been muddled so much that finger pointing is redundant. How much blame should the us take for its hand in the middle Eastern affairs and how far back are we rewinding the clocks? These are nearly identical questions we are asking in response to the reperation demands by the blacks. To some degree we are guilty in stirring the pot but the conflict existed long before we set foot there. We just setting up refineries while the towel heads are busy fighting each other. In a way we are giving them a way to unite against us. To drop their differences and fight the big bad uncle Sam himself.

If my tax dollars are going to go helping other nations fight their oppressive leaders which we may or may not have placed there in the first place then I expect some kind of a return. Either stop the religious wars or give us your oil.
Asking who broke it is not nearly as important on how do we go from here. That is the question most worthy of my attention how does Iran go about its governance after Ayatollah is gone.

its just the same, tired israeli propaganda. just look at how many israelis are buddy-trolling about the safety of Iranians. why do you think that is? their intelligence agency is part of the coup !!!! they tell on themselves 100% of the time without fail
they care because its THEIR OWN countrymen (isarelis) inside IRAN stirring up political tension. I hope the terrorists are caught and dealt with accordingly

Rallies around Iran apparently over the last couple of days - 1million - gigantic compared to the rallies we had been seeing - except these rallies are pro-government rallies. not sure where Israel goes from here. (it seems to be Israel is the driver and the US is getting cold feet, oddly enough).

oh gee i wonder who it could have been? who was most 'concerned' about Iran over the last week???! Israelis !!!! they tell on themselves 100% of the time

Arfan Soltani, a 26 year old Iranian man who was arrested by the regime for participating in protests and sentenced to death, was brutally murdered in prison by the Islamic Republic of Iran


A senior Iranian official told Reuters that at least 5,000 people have been
killed during nationwide protests,l.

it is generally accepted that the protests were US and Israeli led. It was an economic attack on Iran's economy, the idea was to flood/dump the currency on the international market, a country wide attack on every man, woman and child, supported by little green men, or black in this case, who urged people to protest, and apparently shot people when the unrest was not big enough. Starlink was used to organize and when Russia helped Iran to Jam starlink the unrest appears to have been swiftly reduced in scope. I am still trying to marry the logic of Israeli's condemning people for not caring about Iranian civilians. As more information is coming out of Iran it really is difficult to reconcile a false narrative from the facts.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 18 2026 04:28am

A question - If Iran destabilized the Israeli economy, and there were mass protests in Israel, and during these protests Iran sympathizers was on the ground instructing Israeli's to bomb police stations and shoot police officers, do you think the IDF would shoot and kill these Terrorists?

This is all very odd.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 18 2026 04:33am