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Jan 16 2026 02:41pm
I do a mix of my own and from other sources because they save me time going through every little detail. I roll my eyes every time any of you copy pastes bible verses or give me a link to some long winded article or a book to read in place of your own short and succinct answer. Yet I try answer anyway don't see me crying.

It shouldn't matter who points out the contradiction all you need to worry about is if its true or not, and if not provide a reasonable explanation. Heck I don't care if you use chatgpt to save your skin because I have already exhausted their dialogue options and its easy to short circuit them since they recycle same talking points.

Pretty sure even the bible talks about not to shoot the messenger in some way, let's not find excuses to not answer them. So I don't want to hear more crying about that.


I will show you the exact problem with what you were doing. It all started with this post: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=681680370

Specifically #15 – The Genealogy of Jesus.

In my post the first thing I said is: "While I can't answer every single question I will focus on the one. I will focus on the Genealogy of Jesus." I then proceeded to get my study on the Genealogy of Jesus, which I have at the ready if the need ever arises.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=681703277

In your response here you said: "Too bad no one is asking that question."
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=681703781

When I pointed out that you did in fact bring up the Genealogy I was then met with silence:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=681705647

That is when I became suspicious and found your sources. Based on your response I do not think you even read the very things you copy pasted. I will be very honest, even though I posted a blog in response to Bart Ehrman I sure as heck did not read that entire blog. I am also very confident that you did not read the blog that I posted. Nobody has time for that. If you are going to dodge when something specific is answered then that just shows there was no foundation to that claim as it wasn't really your argument was it?

Even 2 minutes before you looked that up you would have had a different reason entirely why you don't believe Christianity and not one of those 15 topics would have come up. Even if all 15 were answered then you would have simply posted the next 15 until you get to the 50.

This means we have been going around in circles for 22 pages with no progress. Why is that? Simple, we haven't been arguing with addone, we have been arguing with Bart Ehrman. If we are arguing with Bart Ehrman then addone isn't coming any closer to having his questions answered and getting closer to God.

I do not want to argue with Bart Ehrman. I want to argue with addone. I want you to post your own thoughts and think for yourself. What is the problem with Christianity that you are struggling with?
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Jan 16 2026 02:52pm
Do you believe that God isn't real, or just that Christianity is fake?

Also, do you believe that Jesus didn't exist at all?


I am almost certain he isn't real, and if he is its definitely not in a way christiany describes him. Christiany is fake maybe useful for certain things but it is built upon unsubstantiated claims.
Jesus - even if you managed to prove there was a literal guy named jesus my skepticism and lack of proof doesn't allow me to accept he had any magic powers like multiplying bread and fish to feed thousands, ressurect or turning water into wine etc so no I don't have a reason to believe he existed much less be a son of god.

^addone

Do you/people have a soul?


Thats a loaded question. It assumes souls exist in the first place.
If you can provide proof that souls exist and not just some religious concept then I have no reason to entertain that question.

Who created you?


My parents I can check their dna vs mine for proof
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Jan 16 2026 03:03pm
I am almost certain he isn't real, and if he is its definitely not in a way christiany describes him. Christiany is fake maybe useful for certain things but it is built upon unsubstantiated claims.
Jesus - even if you managed to prove there was a literal guy named jesus my skepticism and lack of proof doesn't allow me to accept he had any magic powers like multiplying bread and fish to feed thousands, ressurect or turning water into wine etc so no I don't have a reason to believe he existed much less be a son of god.



Thats a loaded question. It assumes souls exist in the first place.
If you can provide proof that souls exist and not just some religious concept then I have no reason to entertain that question.



My parents I can check their dna vs mine for proof


Now go back to the first human.

Where did all this come from?
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Jan 16 2026 03:07pm
1.618 has entered the chat


Known as the devine ratio and is 100% proof of intelligent design.
No bible needed. B) :angel:
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Jan 16 2026 03:32pm
Thats a loaded question. It assumes souls exist in the first place.
If you can provide proof that souls exist and not just some religious concept then I have no reason to entertain that question.


Jump on me for this one, but your soul is your essence, how you carry yourself.
I believe we can speak without speaking, see without vision, and we can sense things within each other.
Your soul is your collective being, since birth.
All your choices, thoughts and intentions generate a "vibe" that is evaluated sub-consciously by people you interact with.
Does your soul exist? I agree it is a loaded question since it's a concept.
But I argue that if you can agree with what I stated above, than arguing against it's existence is moot.
Your soul is what the living will remember after you are gone, much like Jesus.
Your fulcrum for belief is hinging on proof of Jesus but with AI, you can't trust a photo anymore. So, I can't prove the existence of anyone who's dead without testimonies of the living.
Those testimonies have survived 2000+ years.


Or, the people long ago, were obsessed with writing stories about a character who strived to live peacefully, without sin. Could be their reaction to living amongst barbaric morons :bouncy:



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Jan 16 2026 03:40pm
I am almost certain he isn't real, and if he is its definitely not in a way christiany describes him. Christiany is fake maybe useful for certain things but it is built upon unsubstantiated claims.
Jesus - even if you managed to prove there was a literal guy named jesus my skepticism and lack of proof doesn't allow me to accept he had any magic powers like multiplying bread and fish to feed thousands, ressurect or turning water into wine etc so no I don't have a reason to believe he existed much less be a son of god.



Thats a loaded question. It assumes souls exist in the first place.
If you can provide proof that souls exist and not just some religious concept then I have no reason to entertain that question.



My parents I can check their dna vs mine for proof


I mean even Chatgpt which you used to help you create this whole topic will tell you that it is more likely that God exists than that he doesn't (cuz the complexity of the Universe points to a creator).
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Jan 16 2026 07:05pm
I know its covered in the video, but thats false information there.

The King James Bible translates the Hebrew word re’em as “unicorn.” While this translation has become well-known, it is not accurate when compared to the original Hebrew context.

In the Hebrew Bible, it clearly refers to a large, wild, powerful animal, most likely a type of wild ox or aurochs.
Descriptions emphasize its strength, untamable nature, and two horns.

The Greek Septuagint, a translation of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek, rendered re’em as monokeros, meaning “one-horned.”
Early English translators, including those of the KJV just followed this tradition.

So its clearly a false translation.


whats the source for your claim?

try the vid
@6:09 (marginal note)
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Jan 16 2026 07:28pm
Now go back to the first human.

Where did all this come from?


Take it up with the first human then I can't speak on their behalf.

Jump on me for this one, but your soul is your essence, how you carry yourself.
I believe we can speak without speaking, see without vision, and we can sense things within each other.
Your soul is your collective being, since birth.
All your choices, thoughts and intentions generate a "vibe" that is evaluated sub-consciously by people you interact with.
Does your soul exist? I agree it is a loaded question since it's a concept.
But I argue that if you can agree with what I stated above, than arguing against it's existence is moot.
Your soul is what the living will remember after you are gone, much like Jesus.
Your fulcrum for belief is hinging on proof of Jesus but with AI, you can't trust a photo anymore. So, I can't prove the existence of anyone who's dead without testimonies of the living.
Those testimonies have survived 2000+ years.


Or, the people long ago, were obsessed with writing stories about a character who strived to live peacefully, without sin. Could be their reaction to living amongst barbaric morons :bouncy:


Pure speculation. I am not that guillable proof comes before belief.

I mean even Chatgpt which you used to help you create this whole topic will tell you that it is more likely that God exists than that he doesn't (cuz the complexity of the Universe points to a creator).


The only thing ive copied was the bullet points of summerised contradictions. The rest I've typed out myself thanks for mistaking me for AI super intelligence I guess. Also already covered the creator argument
on post #17 https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=681613857
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Jan 16 2026 08:22pm
Take it up with the first human then I can't speak on their behalf.



Pure speculation. I am not that guillable proof comes before belief.



The only thing ive copied was the bullet points of summerised contradictions. The rest I've typed out myself thanks for mistaking me for AI super intelligence I guess. Also already covered the creator argument
on post #17 https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=681613857


You can't claim something isn't truth and turn around and say you don't know the answer.

You have voided your entire argument with that alone.

It's long overdue for this thread to be closed.

Not a single contradiction posted and not a single answer to the one thing that would prove God isn't real.
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Jan 16 2026 09:14pm
You can't claim something isn't truth and turn around and say you don't know the answer.

You have voided your entire argument with that alone.

It's long overdue for this thread to be closed.

Not a single contradiction posted and not a single answer to the one thing that would prove God isn't real.


I have posted many contradictions that you weren't able to fully disprove only defense you have is what you think they say and a whole lot of mental gymnastics.

Didn't void the argument because you are asking for me to be omnipotent and use a crystal ball to go back to the first human and relate back to you how they were created. And pretty sure neither can you.
You Christians are dirty charlatans playing tricks trying to reframe the onus on the others. We are simply denying your claims. I cannot deny gravity or electricity because they are provable but I can deny santa claus, jesus and Casper the friendly ghost because they have no proof. Thats like saying you have no proof that Buddha isn't real.

Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary I suggest you close up shop on your imaginary wizard club and stop peddling lies.
This thread wiil keep delivering and exposing the liars. Thanks for stopping by
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