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Jan 16 2026 11:34am
The constitution does not permit suspending elections under national emergency
And there are certainly not 50 million illegal immigrants in this country
Try again


This is an unprecedented event, which means new precedents can be set. Constitution did not permit a 3 term president either but that happened in a state of emergency - and set the precedent that the constitution is bendy.

That's why I said up to. No one knows the real number but it's high
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Jan 16 2026 11:38am
The constitution does not permit suspending elections under national emergency
And there are certainly not 50 million illegal immigrants in this country
Try again


There are definitely well over 30m. I don’t care what anyone says. When I go to a Walmart and well over half the customers there don’t speak English in my state it’s definitely an issue.

Suspending elections issue? Probably not but it’s a major issue.
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Jan 16 2026 11:46am
Civil war is already happening. It isnt violent enough for you to acknowledge it.


When something in society is widely practiced or tolerated — like everyone drinking alcohol before Prohibition, or 14 million migrants living and moving within the country — it becomes a “normal” part of U.S. life. If the government suddenly makes that behavior illegal or criminalizes it, it can clash with public expectations and social habits. During Prohibition (1920–1933), the federal government banned the production, sale, and transport of alcohol, attempting a heavy-handed crackdown on behavior that had previously been socially accepted. Because drinking had long been tolerated, many Americans ignored the law, defied enforcement, and relied on bootleggers and speakeasies, creating widespread conflict with authorities. Over time, the government’s inability to enforce the ban effectively, combined with public resistance and the rise of organized crime, led to the eventual repeal of Prohibition, returning alcohol to legal status. Similarly, because people have long treated migrant movement as acceptable and they have been allowed to integrate into the US employment pool, many do not fully accept government enforcement actions today. As a result, citizens often break the law, resist enforcement, obstruct authorities, or protest in response, creating friction between ordinary social practices and the state’s attempt to assert control. The issue is compounded by a divided Political establishment and divided country.

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Jan 16 2026 11:52am
Research institutes and immigration institutes put the an illegal immigrant number at around 14million
Let's at least Google before throwing out numbers.

The republican party has campaigned on immigration for decades and really not done shit about it. Now they're beating people in the streets and throwing them in cages in Florida. Deterence? Look at the super illegal shit we're doing to your friends. Don't come here.
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Jan 16 2026 12:05pm
Research institutes and immigration institutes put the an illegal immigrant number at around 14million
Let's at least Google before throwing out numbers.

The republican party has campaigned on immigration for decades and really not done shit about it. Now they're beating people in the streets and throwing them in cages in Florida. Deterence? Look at the super illegal shit we're doing to your friends. Don't come here.
Great approach...


Those are numbers “thrown out” as well. There is absolutely NO WAY to get a close estimate on it.
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Jan 16 2026 12:08pm
When something in society is widely practiced or tolerated — like everyone drinking alcohol before Prohibition, or 14 million migrants living and moving within the country — it becomes a “normal” part of U.S. life. If the government suddenly makes that behavior illegal or criminalizes it, it can clash with public expectations and social habits. During Prohibition (1920–1933), the federal government banned the production, sale, and transport of alcohol, attempting a heavy-handed crackdown on behavior that had previously been socially accepted. Because drinking had long been tolerated, many Americans ignored the law, defied enforcement, and relied on bootleggers and speakeasies, creating widespread conflict with authorities. Over time, the government’s inability to enforce the ban effectively, combined with public resistance and the rise of organized crime, led to the eventual repeal of Prohibition, returning alcohol to legal status. Similarly, because people have long treated migrant movement as acceptable and they have been allowed to integrate into the US employment pool, many do not fully accept government enforcement actions today. As a result, citizens often break the law, resist enforcement, obstruct authorities, or protest in response, creating friction between ordinary social practices and the state’s attempt to assert control. The issue is compounded by a divided Political establishment and divided country.


Ah yes, was the war on drugs ever won?
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Jan 16 2026 12:09pm
When something in society is widely practiced or tolerated — like everyone drinking alcohol before Prohibition, or 14 million migrants living and moving within the country — it becomes a “normal” part of U.S. life. If the government suddenly makes that behavior illegal or criminalizes it, it can clash with public expectations and social habits. During Prohibition (1920–1933), the federal government banned the production, sale, and transport of alcohol, attempting a heavy-handed crackdown on behavior that had previously been socially accepted. Because drinking had long been tolerated, many Americans ignored the law, defied enforcement, and relied on bootleggers and speakeasies, creating widespread conflict with authorities. Over time, the government’s inability to enforce the ban effectively, combined with public resistance and the rise of organized crime, led to the eventual repeal of Prohibition, returning alcohol to legal status. Similarly, because people have long treated migrant movement as acceptable and they have been allowed to integrate into the US employment pool, many do not fully accept government enforcement actions today. As a result, citizens often break the law, resist enforcement, obstruct authorities, or protest in response, creating friction between ordinary social practices and the state’s attempt to assert control. The issue is compounded by a divided Political establishment and divided country.


interesting comparison, genuinely, but i dont think the comparison is valid. because alcohol consumption is a staple of human life going back thousands of years, as is xenophobia. we're literally hard wired to fear the other. and while alcohol consumption is not genetic, it is so habitual and normalized that trying to outlaw it was never going to work.

by contrast its not that we're outlawing a human characteristic when it comes to immigration, in fact we attempted under biden (and to be honest since WW2) to actually legalize something that goes against human nature. yes america is a melting pot, but it's not really. for hundreds of years we thrived as a somewhat ethnically diverse nation of enclaves, there was no melting pot. we drew upon different cultures to enrich america as compartmentalized groups who lived and worked within their general area. the idea that you can simply place all of these people in a blender, hit pulse, and the end result will be better is absurd. and the political backlash to conservatives trying to turn back the clock is actually interesting for the opposite reason of alcohol prohibition. that being that people latch onto these ideals of multiculturalism even though the ideas themselves are fairly new.

its really an act of almost Orwellian historical revision. they somehow convince 30-70 year old people that the nation they grew up in was filled with intermixed racial demographic neighborhoods, and that assembly lines ran at top efficiency with a miltiracial cast of characters working side by side like a netflix series. so the ideas are new, but somehow the roots have grown deep. and somehow america first and conservative voters are the ones who are accused of pandering to people a version of america in the past that didnt exist. "when was america great", they say. "when was america an actual melting pot with general peace" i ask. no answer. never an answer. because there is none.

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Jan 16 2026 12:22pm
Research institutes and immigration institutes put the an illegal immigrant number at around 14million
Let's at least Google before throwing out numbers.

The republican party has campaigned on immigration for decades and really not done shit about it. Now they're beating people in the streets and throwing them in cages in Florida. Deterence? Look at the super illegal shit we're doing to your friends. Don't come here.
Great approach...


Cigarette companies conduct research and find that smoking cigarettes is good for your health
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Jan 16 2026 02:23pm
We do we do here
A sitting president threatening war with other NATO nations
The same sitting president is now threatening the use of the insurrection act and suspending elections.
Why would you want to suspend elections if your party is doing so well?
All the people that said, dont worry you're overreacting.
ICE will soon be given total immunity. The military will be sent to MN because this WILL escalate.

Here we are.
A guy who is plain as day trying to take over the government and country.
A guy who actually has CANADA of all places sending troops to Greenland to help defend it.
Civil War V2 anyone?

Lets take a head count of how many people are in favor of this shit show in this thread.


Evil doesn't belong in our world. We need God given decisions for our world and the evil involved. I don't mind seeing push back against other countries that are involved in some of the crazy things occurring in the world. Anyone happy and content with evil things taking place is a problem.
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Jan 17 2026 09:26am
There will be no liberty until morale improves.

This is an unprecedented event, which means new precedents can be set. Constitution did not permit a 3 term president either but that happened in a state of emergency - and set the precedent that the constitution is bendy.

That's why I said up to. No one knows the real number but it's high


This is incorrect. The constitutional amendment on term limits was put in place after FDR was dead. George Washington set a precedent of two terms but there was no guarantee of it until 1951.

The amendment is worded quite clearly and does not allow wiggle room during a state of emergency or any case whatsoever.

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."

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