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Dec 10 2025 09:18am
Stops ppl from making summon druids cuz yes it still is


ahh gotcha, ya that was honestly a decent BM build on d2 OG. its just no one made it because it was only good vs charger or barb.

could vouch, he had a summon dudu that used edge bow that would just make a barb kill itself.
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Dec 10 2025 11:11am
ahh gotcha, ya that was honestly a decent BM build on d2 OG. its just no one made it because it was only good vs charger or barb.

^goomshill could vouch, he had a summon dudu that used edge bow that would just make a barb kill itself.


ye but it was a matter of balancing vs life leech and any barb building around it would trivially leech through it
honor has 7%, string has 8%, and they could have other sources if they're swapping like circlet, sigons, craft rings/boots, even etlich and its offset by their % dr so that string build is 15% there on top of the leech

edge is 810% with 1/8 penalty
I really don't know what the penalty is on spirit of barbs in d2r or whether they removed it, but you could get as high as 15 spirit and have 221 integer reflected, which at best is 37.5 damage to a 0% dr opponent which frankly isn't worth using even in this contrived scenario
since there's no penalties in norm its like 1% life leech = 47% thorns, so 15% leech = 705% thorns and some % dr on string pushes that back to healing. Ex you deal 1000 damage to a bear, it loses 1000 life, reflects 1012.5 damage, honor string barb loses 146.3 life, but leeches back 150 life
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Dec 10 2025 11:29am
ye but it was a matter of balancing vs life leech and any barb building around it would trivially leech through it
honor has 7%, string has 8%, and they could have other sources if they're swapping like circlet, sigons, craft rings/boots, even etlich and its offset by their % dr so that string build is 15% there on top of the leech

edge is 810% with 1/8 penalty
I really don't know what the penalty is on spirit of barbs in d2r or whether they removed it, but you could get as high as 15 spirit and have 221 integer reflected, which at best is 37.5 damage to a 0% dr opponent which frankly isn't worth using even in this contrived scenario
since there's no penalties in norm its like 1% life leech = 47% thorns, so 15% leech = 705% thorns and some % dr on string pushes that back to healing. Ex you deal 1000 damage to a bear, it loses 1000 life, reflects 1012.5 damage, honor string barb loses 146.3 life, but leeches back 150 life


Fun times! find a cocky barb with low LL and get off maybe 1 kill to troll.

Worrywart had a similar BM build but it was summon necro, if it got off a tele stomp it could surprise some people.

my attempt at that type build was a poi dagger sin, with OW. if it got a single stab on an ES sorc they just died in 1 shot. but such a pain to get the dmg u want and enough AR to hit something, plus 75% block on everyone it was really a tough char to play in anything but tvt. there it worked because it was just a support char that used only MB unless we got advantage and i'd tele kick in and try to hit a dagger.

its a shame the dmg scales so hard on the lvl of poi dagger charges, because rings and gloves give such a low lvl compared to dagger, otherwise u could use Jade and get CBF. never did find a 2 os, 20 ias, AR stack, charges dagger. had to slum it with a larzuk'd magic one.
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Dec 10 2025 04:06pm
how does raven druid work for lld now anyway, can't you hit as much as ~900 per raven?
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Dec 11 2025 03:04am
And yet they have no problem allowing Guided Arrow even though banning it and forcing amazons to use straight arrow skills would make dueling more fun overall.
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Dec 11 2025 07:16am
And yet they have no problem allowing Guided Arrow even though banning it and forcing amazons to use straight arrow skills would make dueling more fun overall.


Super evident you don't duel

Amd or suck at it

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Super evident you don't duel

Amd or suck at it


Lol u use hack , rejuv auto , auto chiken , map hack and u loose all match... WTF Ur out pvp noob
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Lol u use hack , rejuv auto , auto chiken , map hack and u loose all match... WTF Ur out pvp noob


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Lol u use hack , rejuv auto , auto chiken , map hack and u loose all match... WTF Ur out pvp noob


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Im wondering if you still have some of the gear i sold you ?

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Lol u use hack , rejuv auto , auto chiken , map hack and u loose all match... WTF Ur out pvp noob


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