It has many contradictions and stark differences between various books and chapters.


# 1

In Mark, Matthew, and Luke, Jesus eats the Passover meal, and is crucified on Passover day.

In John, Jesus dies before Passover begins.

# 2

Across the Gospels, the number of women in the tomb differs, the number of angels differs, whether the disciples see Jesus in Gaililee or Jerusalem differs, the order of appearances differs.

# 3

Jesus' final words differ

John: It is finished
Luke: Father, into your hands I commend my spirit
Mark/Matthew: My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

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there is no coherence in the bible. There are many contradictions and differences. Some, if not all, of what's in the books have to not be true.

This post was edited by x_h on Jan 11 2026 08:15pm

Contradictions continued...

#7 – The Prophetess Huldah and Her Family: A Case of Differing Names
In 2 Kings 22:14, we read about Hilkiah the priest consulting the prophetess Huldah, who is described as the wife of Shallum, son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas. However, the parallel account in 2 Chronicles 34:22 provides slightly different details about Huldah’s family.

Here, her husband is named Shallum, but his lineage includes Tokhat and Hasra instead of Tikvah and Harhas. Even in the original Hebrew, these differences in names are clear and distinct.

#8 – The Passover Celebrations of Hezekiah and Josiah
A notable example of the contradictions in the Bible arises when comparing the accounts of Passover celebrations under the reigns of King Hezekiah and King Josiah.

In 2 Kings 23:21-23, it’s stated that during Josiah’s reign, the Passover was celebrated for the first time since the era of the judges, explicitly noting that no such observance occurred during the time of the kings of Israel and Judah.

However, in 2 Chronicles 30, we find an account of an earlier Passover celebrated under King Hezekiah. This celebration is described as extraordinarily large and marked by great joy, involving participants from both Judah and remnants of the northern kingdom of Israel.

#9 – Who Was David’s Scribe? Three Different Answers
A fascinating example of a biblical mistake relates to the identity of the scribe who served during King David’s reign.

In 2 Samuel 8:17, the scribe is identified as Seraiah. Later, in 2 Samuel 20:25, the same position is ascribed to someone named Shevah. Meanwhile, 1 Chronicles 18:16 lists Shawsha as the scribe during David’s reign. The differences in names are evident even in the original Hebrew, which creates a clear inconsistency in the record of this key position.

This contradiction may be the result of scribal errors in the transmission of the texts, as the names are phonetically similar, suggesting possible confusion during copying.

Damn bro
I just learned religion promotes racism and misogyny.
Someone is gonna have to get a but kicking for sure

Bro the old testament doesn't fuck around this invisible god loses his shit and wipes entire cities of people for merely having gay thoughts. So much for free will.

Oh well I am having prawns for dinner after work on Sunday while wearing my polyester/cotton blend work pants looking forward to nothing happening again.

what i pick is the onus is on you because its your claim. post both creation accounts (translation chapter n verse) then show me how they contradict

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jan 11 2026 09:07pm

A contradiction only exists if one account explicitly denies what another affirms.

#1 The Gospels are telling the same story from different cultural angles, not giving mutually exclusive timelines. Jesus can eat a passover meal and also die during the Passover preparation period using different, historically normal definitions of “passover”. John is not correcting the Synoptics but rather he is reframing them.

The Synoptic Gospels emphasize that: Jesus ate a passover meal with his disciples and was crucified the following day.

In Jewish reckoning the passover meal occurs after sunset. The next daylight period is still part of the same Jewish day so from a Jewish perspective, Jesus eats passover and is crucified on passover. John repeatedly says Jesus dies on “the day of preparation of the passover.” This does not require that the passover meal had not yet been eaten by anyone. It only requires that the official temple slaughter of lambs had not yet occurred. John focuses on the temple calendar.

This is not a contradiction.

#2 Example of a real contradiction would be “Only one woman went to the tomb.” “No women went to the tomb.”

That never happens.

Instead, the Gospels give partial reports, not exhaustive ones. The accounts differ in how many women are named, not in whether others were present.

Matthew: names Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
Mark: adds Salome
Luke: says the women and later names several
John: focuses almost exclusively on Mary Magdalene

Ancient writers regularly named the most prominent witness and left others unmentioned.

Saying “Mary Magdalene went to the tomb” does not mean "Mary Magdalene went alone.” John even implies others were with her “We do not know where they have laid him” (John 20:2) So there is no logical conflict. Matthew and Mark mention one angel while Luke and John mention two angels. This is not contradictory because mentioning one does not deny the presence of two. One angel is clearly the spokesperson. This is normal eyewitness reporting. If two police officers speak to you but only one talks, you might later say, “An officer told me…” without lying.

Where the disciples see Jesus Galilee vs Jerusalem this is often framed as an “either/or,” but the texts never present it that way.

What the Gospels actually show:

Jerusalem appearances
(Luke 24; John 20)
Later Galilean appearances
(Matthew 28; John 21)
Jesus appears multiple times in multiple places over forty days (Acts 1:3).

Matthew focuses on Galilee because that’s where the disciples were called. That’s where the Great Commission happens. Luke focuses on Jerusalem because Jerusalem is the theological center of his narrative. Acts begins there.

Different narrative emphasis ≠ contradiction.

The Gospels do not claim to give a complete list or a strict chronological sequence. They present selected episodes arranged for theological and narrative purposes. Ancient biographies often grouped events by theme, location and significance.

Luke explicitly says he is selecting material (Luke 1:1–4). John says outright that many events were omitted (John 20:30).

So differing order is not a contradiction unless one Gospel says “this happened before X” another says “this same event happened after X”

That never occurs.

If the Gospels had identical lists, same order, same numbers, same locations then critics would accuse them of collusion or copying. Instead, we have multiple witnesses agreeing on the core facts reporting different details from different perspectives. That is exactly what courts look for in independent testimony.

The shared core that never changes is across all four Gospels the tomb is empty, women are the first witnesses, Jesus appears alive and the disciples are commissioned. The differences are in detail, not in fact. The resurrection accounts differ because they are selective, not exhaustive. ancient, not modern. theological, not journalistic. They overlap, they do not contradict.

What looks like a problem only becomes one when we impose modern expectations on ancient texts.

#3 Crucifixion was a drawn-out process. Victims could speak multiple times over several hours. The Gospels never say “Jesus spoke only these words” or “these were the exclusive last words he said”. Each author records different utterances from the same event. This is no different from multiple witnesses recalling different statements from someone’s final moments. Each Gospel writer selects words that serve their theological focus:

Mark / Matthew
Emphasize Jesus’ suffering and identification with human anguish.

John
Emphasizes Jesus’ sovereignty and completion of his mission.

Luke
Emphasizes Jesus’ trust in the Father and peaceful death.

Genesis 1, plants are created before animals, and humans are created last, simultaneously as male and female, after the animals.
In contrast
Genesis 2 describes the creation of a man before plants and animals, with animals formed after the man and Eve created from Adam’s rib.
The first account portrays God as a distant, transcendent being who creates through spoken command, while the second depicts a more personal, hands-on God who walks in the garden and interacts directly with humanity.

Which is it? Sleepy Jesus or man made story?

Pick one

i asked you to post the actual scripture not tell me what it says

what i pick is the onus is on you because its your claim. post both creation accounts (translation chapter n verse) then show me how they contradict

I did. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 the whole thing.

Here for extra lazy tistuff who is pretending like he doesn't know how to look up a bible. There are you happy? Now read both line by line they dont match in order or what they say. Either its sleepy jesus or regular man made storybook. Pick one.

Genesis 1
The Beginning
1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2
Now the earth was [1] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3
And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
4
God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
5
God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6
And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water."
7
So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
8
God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9
And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so.
10
God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
11
Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so.
12
The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
13
And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14
And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years,
15
and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so.
16
God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.
17
God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth,
18
to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19
And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20
And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky."
21
So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
22
God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth."
23
And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24
And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.
25
God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [2] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
28
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
29
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
30
And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.
31
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

Genesis 2
1
Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
2
By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [3] from all his work.
3
And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Adam and Eve
4
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created. When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens—
5
and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [4] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [5] and there was no man to work the ground,
6
but streams [6] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground—
7
the LORD God formed the man [7] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8
Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.
9
And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
10
A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters.
11
The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold.
12
(The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin [8] and onyx are also there.)
13
The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. [9]
14
The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
15
The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
16
And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
17
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
18
The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
19
Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
20
So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam [10] no suitable helper was found.
21
So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [11] and closed up the place with flesh.
22
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [12] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23
The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called `woman, [13]' for she was taken out of man."
24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
25
The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.




Genesis 1: Order of Events
1) heavens and earth created
2) light shines on earth
3) light divided from darkness
4) firmament divided
5) land separated from water
6) plant life appears
7) sun, moon, and stars appear
8) animal life created
9) man (male and female) created

Genesis 2: Order of Events
1) heavens and earth created
2) plant life appears
3) man (male only) created
4) animal life created
5) woman made from man’s side

2 different accounts with 2 different order of events.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 11 2026 11:06pm

Really ? it is like Cave men explaining how the heavens and earth came to be ... you might as well argue or explain about flat earth lol...Lets talk about the easter bunny? or santa clause ... insane how actual grown people will; read that and say "yeah that is what happen"