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Jan 10 2026 09:52pm
Seems like low income entry level positions are available all day every day
No one wants to work at those places because
A. The work sucks
B. Too much micromanagement
C. They do not pay enough for single income homes

I imagine all the recent job losses both 2025/2024 were redundant middle income positions
Tech laid off 10's of thousands of people.
All this really does is put more people into the living paycheck to paycheck bracket which crushes economies in the long run
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Jan 11 2026 02:19am
Seems like low income entry level positions are available all day every day
No one wants to work at those places because
A. The work sucks
B. Too much micromanagement
C. They do not pay enough for single income homes

I imagine all the recent job losses both 2025/2024 were redundant middle income positions
Tech laid off 10's of thousands of people.
All this really does is put more people into the living paycheck to paycheck bracket which crushes economies in the long run




More context - Home prices have been less affordable than the first year of the great depression running for 3+ years now by median household income to median cost of single family home.

What's being done? - Not much at national level. Recently was hype of blocking wall Street buys of single family homes which represent maybe 3% of the volume. Some existing programs to help first time buyers and some low income scenarios, but they are largely ineffective or miss a huge segment of working families. In contrast, Depression era housing programs in my region yielded affordable homesteads. They cost $70k adjusted to today's dollar. That's a 5 acre homestead with brick veneer basic cottage layout. In contrast, our municipality listed a new build single family home for $375k in a dinky city plot that was built with $2 to $1 State match subsidy. Also, since subsidized can't rent it out for 30 years. Very affordable and flexible starter home subsidized by tax, no locals have bought it for 200 days


Anyways, housing makes no sense in USA

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jan 11 2026 02:36am
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Jan 11 2026 02:29am
A.I. and tracktor do my job.

I stay home and play games, OK?
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Jan 11 2026 12:25pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-NGm4KDLPo

More context - Home prices have been less affordable than the first year of the great depression running for 3+ years now by median household income to median cost of single family home.

What's being done? - Not much at national level. Recently was hype of blocking wall Street buys of single family homes which represent maybe 3% of the volume. Some existing programs to help first time buyers and some low income scenarios, but they are largely ineffective or miss a huge segment of working families. In contrast, Depression era housing programs in my region yielded affordable homesteads. They cost $70k adjusted to today's dollar. That's a 5 acre homestead with brick veneer basic cottage layout. In contrast, our municipality listed a new build single family home for $375k in a dinky city plot that was built with $2 to $1 State match subsidy. Also, since subsidized can't rent it out for 30 years. Very affordable and flexible starter home subsidized by tax, no locals have bought it for 200 days


Anyways, housing makes no sense in USA


REIT's popping up everywhere and scooping up houses for trust fund kiddies so they dont have to pay taxes :rofl:
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Jan 11 2026 01:48pm
Consequences of years of unchecked bloat and overspending.

Economies need to be flushed sometimes imo but low key this is a tough time. Feel bad for young people/recent college grads. Country got flooded with immigrants for the benefit of corporations while kids were sold a false American dream.

I work in finance and weve seen so many overqualified people applying for mid tier jobs. Legit getting Columbia grad resumes applying for 70k jobs

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 11 2026 01:48pm
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Jan 11 2026 08:13pm
lol? All three towns around me and my town have “Now Hiring” in hundreds if not thousands of businesses.
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lol? All three towns around me and my town have “Now Hiring” in hundreds if not thousands of businesses.


Same here, but its mostly blue collar/entry level work. There is an imbalance of graduates who studied to become computer programmers, lesbian dance theory and youtube streamers. No one wants to do manual labor they all want to be sitting in some nice air conditioned office and getting paid +$100k while playing video games.

There was a south park episode where trade workers became so rare and in demand that people started to pay them obscene amounts of money.

This is a much needed market correction.
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Jan 11 2026 10:50pm
Same here, but its mostly blue collar/entry level work. There is an imbalance of graduates who studied to become computer programmers, lesbian dance theory and youtube streamers. No one wants to do manual labor they all want to be sitting in some nice air conditioned office and getting paid +$100k while playing video games.

There was a south park episode where trade workers became so rare and in demand that people started to pay them obscene amounts of money.

This is a much needed market correction.


The world is changing for the better in that aspect. You can be a blue collar worker and make just as much or more than people with degrees nowadays. Few examples I’ve personally noticed.

Nephew graduated high school with welding certification. Two years later he now does welding on rigs out in the ocean and makes well into the 6 digits a year.

Girl I went to high school with started off as a bank teller and never went to college. Now heads two branches. Well into six digits.

Electricians, plumbers and HVAC all make nice money also Hazmat.

This is a GOOD THING. It will eventually force colleges to lower prices or die because trades are becoming more and more popular.


A LOT of programmers are jobless by the way. I’ve had one living with me for 5 years because it’s over saturated and most are temp. Brother in law rarely keeps a decent paying job in that field for longer than a year or so.

This post was edited by T3XBOT on Jan 11 2026 10:52pm
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Jan 12 2026 05:57am
New report is out from BLS

Only 584k new jobs created in 2025 vs 2 million in 2024

7.5 million unemployed Americans

Only 2.1 million have been unemployed for less than 5 weeks

But at least our government is kidnapping heads of state under the pretext of made up drug cartels, bombing multiple countries, deporting people to African labor camps, and shooting people in the head

America is so back


Idk where you people come from. Look at data more realistically next time.
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