Its rather implicit in the right to self defense that no such right exists if you have to wait until you are dead to exercise it

https://alphanews.org/state-patrol-reviewing-its-response-to-alleged-stalking-incident-of-federal-employee/

A federal employee leaving work at the whipple building that was being targeted by rioters in Minneapolis yesterday was stalked on his/her way home
Another vehicle from among the anti-ICE group aggressively followed them along the freeway and tailed them for miles.
The employee called 911 and MN State Patrol wound up with the call, only to declare they refused to assist this federal employee and the state patrol 'wants nothing to do with ICE'
They do not work for ICE, its just some unrelated federal employee
A squad from the sheriffs office independently found the fed and the car chasing them, and arrested the stalker on the spot on probable cause harassment. They were booked into jail and released after 7 hours pending charges as is the norm for Minnesota, catch and release with no consequence.

combo-breaker. just being helpful. actually that looks interesting - reading now.
Goom, its not black and white - the person being tailed/stalked/chased - was an Ice Employee, is that right?

If the employee was not assisted due to political orientation or employment then the entity not assisting should be fired. actually, more then fired. fired, charged, fined and an entire new training course. This could be a symptom of a wider issue where society / bodies start taking matters into their own hands due to be disillusioned with government policy.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 10 2026 04:15pm

I suppose if law enforcement and feds are such low IQ cretins that they either kill everyone involved or die, then yes I would say it makes sense for "the right to self defense" to amount to "literally just shoot everyone" but in an enlightened society, the decision to take a life is handled a bit more delicately. But I know I'm talking fairy dust and unicorn farts here

ICE is making a ripple in the cities beyond the media hype. Local hearsay way north of Twin Cities is people seeing more of the stereotype illegal migrant around towns last few weeks and in particular this last weekend. Even seen some myself in our northern town in a desolate county. Honestly, great wilderness area to hide in unless they in route to Canada now.

Didn't see anything out of the ordinary but I imagine if they were fleeing the cities for the 'north' they'd be fleeing to another city like duluth or bemidji

that woman was murdered, no doubt about it. shame on the american government

Kristi Noem vows hundreds more agents to Minneapolis
you know what this means? The most people in downtown in over a decade
holy shit the businesses that have clutched to the last strands of life down there are barely going to handle serving all the lunches and dinners these guys will buy
it'll be the first time anyone with disposable income has set foot on hennepin avenue since the pandemic

she tried to commit murder using a car as a weapon. if she got away whos to say she wasnt going to ram other people?
anyway
it looks like the saul alinsky criminals are going to make a martyr out of another criminal

People in Minnesota continue to prove they are BY FAR the dumbest Americans (common sense wise) in the country. Trump and this administration is HOPING the protests get worse. He’s HOPING to have an excuse to intensify the situation.

And you know what? They are going to give it to him alongside a reason to declare a state of emergency and hold off elections. Watch. You can guarantee they are searching for as many reasons as possibly and as many avenues as possible to get as much out of these 4 years as he can.