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Jan 10 2026 07:45pm
I rebuke you and your demons in the mighty name of Jesus

hallelujah
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1. Not what I said or believe it was a hypothetical.
2. So I am coping by reading the bible and not believing like you. Great argument
4. It doesn't
5. There is a difference between knowing and faith. You filled the mystery box with faith on a "trust me bro".


Maybe I’m just having trouble understanding what the purpose of this post is then. Is it just that you don’t believe in God? Why does that matter?
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I never assumed anything?

The fact that you have no knowledge/facts on the subject you really can't take the stance of "God is not real"

There is plenty of evidence and documents that are before the bibles time that verify the events that happened prior and these documents also disprove other religions.

You also haven't pursued God and seeked to have a relationship with him. So you trying to state your opinion as "fact" is honestly a silly thing to do.

I would much rather see you take your stance from experience rather than assumption.

Very disappointing.


Well you just strolled on into this thread dropped "historically accurate" and "creator" as it was facts without proof.
If there is plenty of evidence let's examine it and see if its credible or another "trust me bro" attempt.

You have no idea what I have pursued or didn't pursue. Or are you omniscient?

I have pursued in fact, read the bible front to back studied the teachings but didn't feel or experience any holy spirit, no divine guidance not even so much as sign. Its as if this invisible god didn't exist at all. Hence the thread
What I have learned is a bunch of inconsistencies, false promises, crazy stories that often don't even make sense. In fact I feel more free and wiser that I don't have to pretend like there is some invisible man watching and judging every action.

I don't require any commandments to live by as we have pretty clear laws and apply common sense. I don't need to worship this extremely jealous wizard who apparently needs donations.
This thread is to shine a light on all the tricks the religious charlatans employ in order to deceive its victims.

You should try it

I rebuke you and your demons in the mighty name of Jesus

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Nope didn't work have you tried praying harder?

Maybe I’m just having trouble understanding what the purpose of this post is then. Is it just that you don’t believe in God? Why does that matter?


This was a conversation between me and D_urrrr. If you are going to interject at the very least catch up before you slide yourself into it.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 10 2026 09:48pm
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Well you just strolled on into this thread dropped "historically accurate" and "creator" as it was facts without proof.
If there is plenty of evidence let's examine it and see if its credible or another "trust me bro" attempt.

You have no idea what I have pursued or didn't pursue. Or are you omniscient?

I have pursued in fact, read the bible front to back studied the teachings but didn't feel or experience any holy spirit, no divine guidance not even so much as sign. Its as if this invisible god didn't exist at all. Hence the thread
What I have learned is a bunch of inconsistencies, false promises, crazy stories that often don't even make sense. In fact I feel more free and wiser that I don't have to pretend like there is some invisible man watching and judging every action.

I don't require any commandments to live by as we have pretty clear laws and apply common sense. I don't need to worship this extremely jealous wizard who apparently needs donations.
This thread is to shine a light on all the tricks the religious charlatans employ in order to deceive its victims.

You should try it



Nope didn't work have you tried praying harder?



This was a conversation between me and D_urrrr. If you are going to interject at the very least catch up before you slide yourself into it.


The bible isn't meant to be read front to back like it's a story and it's not about, "okay I read the book now where are you".

It's clear without faith you failed to hear from God.

Sounds to me you never knew Christ and expected him to do it all for you rather than pursuing him to know him.

Some evidence examples are the Pauline letters, the Gospels, letters to trajan, tacitus, Flavius Josephus, Lucian of Samosata, Mara bar-Serapion.

There are actual documents that verify the existence of Jesus and the Bibles contents and you did not study the Bible in its original language. The Bible does not include contradictions and false promises that you assume, it's simply your lack of faith and understanding of the word.

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The bible isn't meant to be read front to back like it's a story and it's not about, "okay I read the book now where are you".

It's clear without faith you failed to hear from God.

Sounds to me you never knew Christ and expected him to do it all for you rather than pursuing him to know him.

Some evidence examples are the Pauline letters, the Gospels, letters to trajan, tacitus, Flavius Josephus, Lucian of Samosata, Mara bar-Serapion.

There are actual documents that verify the existence of Jesus and the Bibles contents and you did not study the Bible in its original language. The Bible does not include contradictions and false promises that you assume, it's simply your lack of faith and understanding of the word.


In other words, it's a skill issue
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In other words, it's a skill issue


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The bible isn't meant to be read front to back like it's a story and it's not about, "okay I read the book now where are you".

It's clear without faith you failed to hear from God.

Sounds to me you never knew Christ and expected him to do it all for you rather than pursuing him to know him.

Some evidence examples are the Pauline letters, the Gospels, letters to trajan, tacitus, Flavius Josephus, Lucian of Samosata, Mara bar-Serapion.

There are actual documents that verify the existence of Jesus and the Bibles contents and you did not study the Bible in its original language. The Bible does not include contradictions and false promises that you assume, it's simply your lack of faith and understanding of the word.


I already applied Faith and probably forgot more about the bible than you know so let's not get all high and mighty here.
Sounds like you have hypnotized yourself with blind faith and have a hard time looking at things objectively. I am looking at the so called proof you mentioned but I cannot find anything credible or concrete just a bunch of "trust me bro" and second hand accounts from people who didn't even live in the same century as the guy.

Pauline epistels - thats just books in the bible ‐ this is using the bible to prove the bible complete circular logic nice try lol.
Gospels - more books in the bible
Letters to trajan - was a letter written 112 years after the so called jesus complaining about Christian cult growing. He never met or seen jesus just circulated the same story. No one is disputing there were Christians here btw.
Flavius Josephus - was born 37 years after so called jesus supposedly died. His letter is a fictional or apocryphal text not a historical letter. Again never met the guy
Luciano Samosata - was a writing satire and fiction not sure how this helps your case the guy was born 125 years after so called jesus.
Mara bar-Serapion - at least 73 years after the fact the guy mentions the king of jews. Doesn't even mention him by name could of been anybody. Much less talk about the magic powers that Christians claim he had.

If this is the best you can muster then maybe start saying "allegedly" more often as to not give people the impression that you are actually serious.



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The bible isn't meant to be read front to back like it's a story and it's not about, "okay I read the book now where are you".

It's clear without faith you failed to hear from God.

Sounds to me you never knew Christ and expected him to do it all for you rather than pursuing him to know him.

Some evidence examples are the Pauline letters, the Gospels, letters to trajan, tacitus, Flavius Josephus, Lucian of Samosata, Mara bar-Serapion.

There are actual documents that verify the existence of Jesus and the Bibles contents and you did not study the Bible in its original language. The Bible does not include contradictions and false promises that you assume, it's simply your lack of faith and understanding of the word.


It's crazy how people say this yet they have no idea what God says to them, or there too embarrassed to admit they never spoke to him. What did he say to you when you spoke? Oops I forgot you won't tell us.

What else never gets old is that people will read a book in a language and then try to tell everyone else that it's everyone else that doesn't understand it. Like holy shit bro you're just not taking enough drugs to understand it the way that I am. Abraham wasn't told to murder his son by God take a couple hits of ecstasy and then read it again and you'll understand it better. All this false extraction of perceived nonsense where there isn't anything at all just goes to show Catholics are only in it for themselves and not to enrich the lives of anyone around them.
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Jan 11 2026 02:47am
Lets start with a few basic contradictions. I know some of you have been itching for me to come back and prove me wrong well here is your chance. Lets keep it civil and try to answer each other truthfully without devolving into kindergarten.


#1 - The Earth Does Not Last Forever
In Ecclesiastes 1:4, we read that “the earth remains forever,” a sentiment echoed in Psalm 104:5, which praises God for laying the foundations of the earth so firmly that “it should never be moved.”

However, this view contrasts sharply with certain passages in the New Testament that foresee the destruction of the current earth and the creation of a new one. For example, 2 Peter 3:13 describes the hope for “new heavens and a new earth, where righteousness dwells,” and Revelation 21:1 envisions “a new heaven and a new earth” after the first has passed away.

#2 - The Number of Animals Noah Took on the Ark
Another example that reminds us of the discrepancies in the Bible can be found in the story of Noah and the Ark. In Genesis 6:19-20, God commands Noah to take two of every kind of animal — one male and one female — onto the Ark to preserve their species. However, in Genesis 7:2-3, the instructions are more specific, stating that Noah should take seven pairs of clean animals (suitable for sacrifice) and one pair of unclean animals.

So, which is it? This discrepancy reflects differing traditions within the text, likely stemming from the merging of multiple sources behind the composition of Genesis. As Robert Alter explains in his Commentary:

As scholarship has often noted, two versions of the Flood story, the Priestly and the Yahwistic, are intertwined in a somewhat confusing fashion... Abraham ibn Ezra and other medieval exegetes rescue consistency by proposing that when God directed attention to the clean-unclean distinction, He had to add the difference in numbers because more animals needed to be sacrificed. (Noah, like his counterpart in the Mesopotamian Flood stories, does in fact offer a thanksgiving sacrifice after the waters recede.) But the tensions between the two versions, including how they record the time span of the Flood, persist, and there are some indications that the editor himself struggled to harmonize them.


#3 - Two Creation Stories
In exploring other biblical contradictions, we are (for now) staying with the Book of Genesis, which begins with two distinct accounts of creation. In Genesis 1:1-2:3, it unfolds in a structured, ordered sequence over six days, culminating in the creation of humanity (male and female) together on the sixth day.

In Genesis 2:4-25, however, the narrative is more focused on human formation. Here, man (Adam) is created first from the dust of the ground, followed by vegetation, animals, and finally, a woman (Eve) as a helper. This portrayal is more intimate and anthropocentric, with God personally shaping Adam and breathing life into him.


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#2 - The Number of Animals Noah Took on the Ark
Another example that reminds us of the discrepancies in the Bible can be found in the story of Noah and the Ark. In Genesis 6:19-20, God commands Noah to take two of every kind of animal — one male and one female — onto the Ark to preserve their species. However, in Genesis 7:2-3, the instructions are more specific, stating that Noah should take seven pairs of clean animals (suitable for sacrifice) and one pair of unclean animals.

So, which is it? This discrepancy reflects differing traditions within the text, likely stemming from the merging of multiple sources behind the composition of Genesis. As Robert Alter explains in his Commentary:

As scholarship has often noted, two versions of the Flood story, the Priestly and the Yahwistic, are intertwined in a somewhat confusing fashion... Abraham ibn Ezra and other medieval exegetes rescue consistency by proposing that when God directed attention to the clean-unclean distinction, He had to add the difference in numbers because more animals needed to be sacrificed. (Noah, like his counterpart in the Mesopotamian Flood stories, does in fact offer a thanksgiving sacrifice after the waters recede.) But the tensions between the two versions, including how they record the time span of the Flood, persist, and there are some indications that the editor himself struggled to harmonize them.


i suggest its 2 authors documenting the same event. i can say this because i read a ancient document once that wasnt in the bible but talked about noahs ark. what i remember is a lioness brought to noah two cubs and all three crouched. the the two cube rebuked the lioness. the lioness then went to the rest of the animals. then the two cubs crouched again. noah went to the two cubs and picked them up and brought them to the arc while marveling at the event.

there is really no way to resolve these kind of disagreements. people reporting on the same event. if their stories are to similar then the claim of plagiarism will be claimed. if their stories are to dissimilar then they cant get their story straight. police taking reports often report on how different accounts can vary.


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