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Jan 10 2026 03:30pm
New report is out from BLS

Only 584k new jobs created in 2025 vs 2 million in 2024

7.5 million unemployed Americans

Only 2.1 million have been unemployed for less than 5 weeks

But at least our government is kidnapping heads of state under the pretext of made up drug cartels, bombing multiple countries, deporting people to African labor camps, and shooting people in the head

America is so back
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Jan 10 2026 03:56pm
New report is out from BLS

Only 584k new jobs created in 2025 vs 2 million in 2024

7.5 million unemployed Americans

Only 2.1 million have been unemployed for less than 5 weeks

But at least our government is kidnapping heads of state under the pretext of made up drug cartels, bombing multiple countries, deporting people to African labor camps, and shooting people in the head

America is so back


Not sure what you are talking about but there is a shortage of trade workers all across the country. I am struggling to find competent staff
There is an influx of work now that illegals are being deported. For every 10 incompetent karens there is 1 practical person that does all the real work. McDonalds is always looking to hire.

These dei hires were living on borrowed time now they refusing to get a real job. Cushy office jobs where they enjoyed telling "learn how to code boomer" a couple of decades ago are now rapidly being replaced by AI.
This is simply a market correction now its back to "learn how to weld kid" cycle
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Jan 10 2026 04:02pm
New report is out from BLS

Only 584k new jobs created in 2025 vs 2 million in 2024

7.5 million unemployed Americans

Only 2.1 million have been unemployed for less than 5 weeks

But at least our government is kidnapping heads of state under the pretext of made up drug cartels, bombing multiple countries, deporting people to African labor camps, and shooting people in the head

America is so back


U.S. unemployment is ~4.5% (~7.5M people). That’s lower than Canada (6.8%), Germany (6.3%), France (7.7%), and roughly in line with China (~5.1%). Mexico (~2.7%) and Russia (~2.3%, on a war footing) are meaningfully lower. For the US this is still historically low unemployment. The current "story" of employment in the US is positive. All that other stuff - kidnapping heads of state, bombing multiple countries (Iran, Syria, Yemen, Nigeria, Venezuela. There is an argument for including Lebanon and Gaza as well of course, noting they bombed by proxy - US bombs supplied to Israel. On that Note, Israel is joint 1st having bombed Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iran.

In fairness though Russia is bombing Ukraine daily with ballistic missiles, so this would rank in 2nd place. Obviously Israel's continued bombing of Gaza still ranks #1 in the world for 2 years running now. In this regard the US is lagging a bit. Maybe bomb Greenland (except the population is only 57,000) and then Denmark I guess? then swing back to Venezuela, before swinging by Iran again and then Columbia. I dont think the US needs to do anything to Cuba, it has been starved for 6 decades now by the US and to my mind is a failed state now by some measures.

England also tried the whole deporting people to Africa. The US really is in good company. However, It is hard to find a peer competitor for shooting people in the head though noting the sheer volume of gun crime in the US, especially with the overarching issues of walking while black, driving while lesbian and the whole half the country wants to walk over the dead bodies of the other half.

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bla bla bla.... Bidens economy.... yadayadayada
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bla bla bla.... Bidens economy.... yadayadayada


data suggests it was around 6.3% when Genocide Joe took office, and it was 3.8% by the time he left. So all Trump has to do is genocide a few countries (an American suggested the other day that Foreign wars is the best way for the US to improve its domestic situation) to catch up. but in fairness unemployment in the US is still historically low as i noted above.

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data suggests it was around 6.3% when Genocide Joe took office, and it was 3.8% by the time he left. So all Trump has to do is genocide a few countries (an American suggested the other day that Foreign wars is the best way for the US to improve its domestic situation) to catch up. but in fairness unemployment in the US is still historically low as i noted above.


Good numbers = trump
Bad numbers = biden
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uhh its unemployment figures. the lower the better. (genocide sleepy joe) Biden inherited high unemployment and brought it down. im not american, im just providing the data which is readily available. No citizen of the US should want high unemployment rates. that leads to alot of negative "stuff". Biden did a good job re: employment and current unemployment rates remain, under Trump, low.

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uhh its unemployment figures. the lower the better. (genocide sleepy joe) Biden inherited high unemployment and brought it down. im not american, im just providing the data which is readily available. No citizen of the US should want high unemployment rates. that leads to alot of negative "stuff". Biden did a good job re: employment and current unemployment rates remain, under Trump, low.


I think the correlation between economic indicators annd economic performance and the US president has been very overstated throughout history by partisans and the press who just want things to talk about. I think some of the economic slowdown we’re seeing under trump is just that…. Unrelated to him. But it’s hard not to connect the dots and think doge cuts and tariffs aren’t having some effect. He’s likely been more impactful in changing the economic conditions in this country than most presidents his first year in office. Unfortunately that’s not a positive.
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I think the correlation between economic indicators annd economic performance and the US president has been very overstated throughout history by partisans and the press who just want things to talk about. I think some of the economic slowdown we’re seeing under trump is just that…. Unrelated to him. But it’s hard not to connect the dots and think doge cuts and tariffs aren’t having some effect. He’s likely been more impactful in changing the economic conditions in this country than most presidents his first year in office. Unfortunately that’s not a positive.


Political incentives and policy changes often take years to translate into the employment rate, whether positively or negatively. I mean the 2008 crash was an instant crash, but that was a unique perfect storm. As long as the U.S. continues to benefit from "global trade" i.e. access to foreign resources (i.e. stealing natural resources from multiple countries), short-term unemployment is unlikely to be significantly affected by Trump’s tariffs or military actions. The long term challenge is maintaining the dominance of the US Dollar while slapping tarriffs on the entire world and encouraging virtually every country on the planet not to trade with the US...

multiple countries are reducing their dollar reserves, multiple countries are looking for new markets noting the US has said it no longer wants to trade with them and multiple blocks are now trying to determine if its safe to deal with the US. This is a long term issue which whoever is after Trump will have to deal with*. A hot potato as it were.

*thats if Trump steps down :P

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Political incentives and policy changes often take years to translate into the employment rate, whether positively or negatively. I mean the 2008 crash was an instant crash, but that was a unique perfect storm. As long as the U.S. continues to benefit from "global trade" i.e. access to foreign resources (i.e. stealing natural resources from multiple countries), short-term unemployment is unlikely to be significantly affected by Trump’s tariffs or military actions. The long term challenge is maintaining the dominance of the US Dollar while slapping tarriffs on the entire world and encouraging virtually every country on the planet not to trade with the US...

multiple countries are reducing their dollar reserves, multiple countries are looking for new markets noting the US has said it no longer wants to trade with them and multiple blocks are now trying to determine if its safe to deal with the US. This is a long term issue which whoever is after Trump will have to deal with*. A hot potato as it were.

*thats if Trump steps down :P


It’s fair to question how far reaching some of the effects were. But the doge and spending effects from trumps presidency were real. I can just speak for my company but we’re a private consulting firm that has quite a few government contracts. While agencies had congressionally approved funding, the administration made it very hard to access that. Our federal task orders were only about 40% of what they’ve been historically. What we were told by those agencies is that even though the agencies had funding in theory, oftentimes that funding (even though technically available) was frozen and was made very hard to functionally access for projects.

How wide reaching were those effects? I certainly can’t say. But we felt it undeniably. Thankfully we’re diverse enough it wasn’t too painful as we somewhat filled gaps elsewhere. But I know some of our competitors felt it more severely than us.
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