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Jan 10 2026 04:35am
My country is not in Nato, thanks! Every country close to the US has to be very careful in condemning the US when it does bad things, as they may be next. THAT is the world that the US has created.


Oh, ok. But, to be clear, you are saying that, for example, Denmark invited Russia to invade Ukraine?

There's some more stuff in that post I'd like you to address too lol. Where did you get all that nonsense you said about Iraq?
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Jan 10 2026 04:41am
You think they were right to support the murder and mutilation of a little girl for the crime of being Jewish?

You're right, I'm the one with the inhumane takes.


You dont get it do you ?.. neither are correct in their actions, but there is one that is FAR worse, and its the side ur supporting ..
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You dont get it do you ?.. neither are correct in their actions, but there is one that is FAR worse, and its the side ur supporting ..


You don't get it. That's incorrect. Being stronger does not make you worse. If Palestine had the upper hand, every man woman and child in Israel would be dead. Israel tries to avoid civilian death as much as possible, but it's not that easy when they're willingly acting as human shields, and the lines between militant and civilian are blurred.

I know you guys all think Israel loves killing civilians, but it takes about a 4-year-olds level of logic to realize this is obviously not the case. Israel could have killed millions if that is what they wanted. It is not what they want.
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You don't get it. That's incorrect. Being stronger does not make you worse. If Palestine had the upper hand, every man woman and child in Israel would be dead. Israel tries to avoid civilian death as much as possible, but it's not that easy when they're willingly acting as human shields, and the lines between militant and civilian are blurred.

I know you guys all think Israel loves killing civilians, but it takes about a 4-year-olds level of logic to realize this is obviously not the case. Israel could have killed millions if that is what they wanted. It is not what they want.


Dude, you know what org was behind what actions .. the terrorcell behind the attacks would of been a reasonable get back, but thats not what happened was it ? Civilians is a prime target aswell as reporters , controlling the narrative is one thing, whats actually going on is another .. explain the slaughter of all the medical aid personnel and the tens of thousands of civilians that have died so far ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide. Your welcome.. what Israel is doing is A straight up genocide and your trying to cover it up with words, wont change facts

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Dude, you know what org was behind what actions .. the terrorcell behind the attacks would of been a reasonable get back, but thats not what happened was it ? Civilians is a prime target aswell as reporters , controlling the narrative is one thing, whats actually going on is another .. explain the slaughter of all the medical aid personnel and the tens of thousands of civilians that have died so far ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide. Your welcome.. what Israel is doing is A straight up genocide and your trying to cover it up with words, wont change facts


If it's a genocide why aren't they killing as many people as they possibly can? That's what a genocide is, you know.
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If it's a genocide why aren't they killing as many people as they possibly can? That's what a genocide is, you know.


No, trying to eliminate another group of people is what A genocide is .. and thats whats been happening, if it was completely unchecked by the world it would of been over and all Palestinians would be dead .. systematic attacks while trying to save face is whats going on and has been for a while
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Jan 10 2026 05:31am
No, trying to eliminate another group of people is what A genocide is .. and thats whats been happening, if it was completely unchecked by the world it would of been over and all Palestinians would be dead .. systematic attacks while trying to save face is whats going on and has been for a while


If they're trying to eliminate the Palestinians they're doing a bad job. It's going to take a couple hundred years at this rate, assuming they don't reproduce at all.

Edit: Oh shit, I googled it, they actually are reproducing at a rate far greater than the deathrate of the war so it's going to take a literal infinite amount of time to complete this genocide. That's poor planning, someone should let them know.

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Jan 10 2026 05:51am
Oh, ok. But, to be clear, you are saying that, for example, Denmark invited Russia to invade Ukraine?

There's some more stuff in that post I'd like you to address too lol. Where did you get all that nonsense you said about Iraq?


Poland and the Baltic states refused to hold the summit with Russia prior to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Europe got its knickers in a twist unable to talk to Russia (i.e. Poland and Baltic's vetoing the summit) and instead invited the US to negotiate for them. The US invited Russia to invade Ukraine. If you want to argue this, then the less uncomfortable truth is that Europe placed all its eggs into the US basket hoping the US had European interests when negotiating with Russia, prior to the US practically inviting Russia to invade Ukraine. The US has its own interests, as we so happily agreed and using a proxy war to destroy an enemy is not a new strategy.
Iraq was used by the US to attack Iran after Iran said no to giving the US their Oil. Russia and Iraq have had a similar history in their relationship with the US - both were invited to misbehave. Does this make Iraq and Russia baddies as well? yes. However, the overarching sentiment here is that the US is not the world's policeman that deluded people thought, not a beacon of democracy and not a stabilizing influence. It is the most dangerous destabilizing influence on the planet right now and that has consequences. forgive me if i get mixed up in Iraq1 and Iraq2, i would hope the overarching sentiment is understood.

You don't get it. That's incorrect. Being stronger does not make you worse. If Palestine had the upper hand, every man woman and child in Israel would be dead. Israel tries to avoid civilian death as much as possible, but it's not that easy when they're willingly acting as human shields, and the lines between militant and civilian are blurred.

I know you guys all think Israel loves killing civilians, but it takes about a 4-year-olds level of logic to realize this is obviously not the case. Israel could have killed millions if that is what they wanted. It is not what they want.


When you are dropping 2000lbs bombs its kinda hard to sell the whole "tries to avoid civilian death(s)" same goes when you tell a people to flee and then bomb them while fleeing, and bomb them again when they flee to where you told them to go. no one has said that Israel loves killing civilians, just that they are doing it. also yes, Israel could kill millions but this topic is not about what Israel could or could not do, or how they feel about it. this topic is not about Israel.

we are talking about the US, Greenland, and where this is going. there are multiple israel topics.

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Poland and the Baltic states refused to hold the summit with Russia prior to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
The US invited Russia to invade Ukraine. If you want to argue this, then the less uncomfortable truth is that Europe placed all its eggs into the US basket hoping the US had European interests when negotiating with Russia, prior to the US practically inviting Russia to invade Ukraine.
Iraq was used by the US to attack Iran after Iran said no to giving the US their Oil. Russia and Iraq have had a similar history in their relationship with the US - both were invited to misbehave.
forgive me if i get mixed up in Iraq1 and Iraq2, i would hope the overarching sentiment is understood.



When you are dropping 2000lbs bombs its kinda hard to sell the whole "tries to avoid civilian death(s)" same goes when you tell a people to flee and then bomb them while fleeing, and bomb them again when they flee to where you told them to go. conflating here noting we are talking about Israel now not the US.

no one has said that Israel loves killing civilians, just that they are doing it. also yes, Israel could kill millions but this topic is not about what Israel could or could not do, we are talking about the US, Greenland, and where this is going.


I think I understood the overarching sentiment in regards to Iraq. Was it that you're willing to lie in order to vilify America? Lol you accused us of giving Saddam Hussein sarin, right after you denied that they had it at all... Just hateful nonsense. As I said, America has done bad things, you don't have to make shit up.

And, again, if America invited Russia to invade Ukraine, so did every other NATO member except Turkey. How can you repeat your assertion that America did it and repeatedly dodge the question of whether or not you'll also blame Denmark and France and Germany and all the rest? C'mon man, be honest. Co-conspirators. I believe I've said this to you before. Nobody cares about Ukraine, everyone is just fucking with Russia.

I didn't bring up Israel, you did. Don't say we're not talking about Israel after I respond lol what are you 11 years old? If you say things to me, I will respond to them. That is how conversation works.
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I think I understood the overarching sentiment in regards to Iraq. Was it that you're willing to lie in order to vilify America? Lol you accused us of giving Saddam Hussein sarin, right after you denied that they had it at all... Just hateful nonsense. As I said, America has done bad things, you don't have to make shit up.

And, again, if America invited Russia to invade Ukraine, so did every other NATO member except Turkey. How can you repeat your assertion that America did it and repeatedly dodge the question of whether or not you'll also blame Denmark and France and Germany and all the rest? C'mon man, be honest. Co-conspirators. I believe I've said this to you before. Nobody cares about Ukraine, everyone is just fucking with Russia.

I didn't bring up Israel, you did. Don't say we're not talking about Israel after I respond lol what are you 11 years old? If you say things to me, I will respond to them. That is how conversation works.


you brought up Palestine. if you open the door, dont be surprised if I walk through it. I can concede the point on Iraq but Nato did not negotiate with Russia - the US did. Joe Biden did. If you want to blame the EU or Nato for something its for being too stupid to negotiate or talk to Russia. ditto for Ukraine. Them relying on the US - A country on the far side of the planet - which has its own interests, one of them being to destabilize Russia and create regime change, is something they should have considered. spilled milk now except that milk is now going stale.
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