So America, when they needed it their allies did, in fact, show up. They put their sons and daugthers, fathers and mothers, on the line, for America. That's an ally. And they did that, and have kept doing that, despite the fact that America lied. They lied about WMDs and America, on behalf of Israel, went completely rouge in the middle east which cost europe countless lives, and if anything, worsened 10th fold the security situation in europe, on behalf of America. Because we are allies.
Now we did all of that, and continues to do that (france and uk just hit targets in syria as example) but that doesn't mean that we cannot call the situation we put ourselves in, for your sake, for what it is. AN ABSOLUTE CLUSTER FUCK of a decision.
So yea America gets shit for the bad decisions they do, and you know what America has made terrible fucking decisions for the last 25 years and actually even more and there's plenty of euopean blood on the ground of alot of those decisions so i think euopeans have earned the right to critique their ally. I'll even go as far as to say it's necessary and prudent to critique your friends and in this case your allies when they make bad decisions so they don't end up repeating them.
Lol yes, you helped in Afghanistan. Again, I think that's great.
This is not an equal alliance though. It's nice that you helped. It's a drop in the fucking bucket of what you owe in gratitude.
America liberated your continent from fascism and protected it from communism, then rebuilt your continent out of the ashes from the fire you refused to fight.
We've continued to insulate you from every threat(including from yourselves) for the 80 years since then.
The last time I saw this argument used, it wasn’t in geopolitics - it was in the Diablo II PvP community. A user was single handed propping up a ladder community via sharing his account. Someone said: “Your gear is good, you let me use it, but you’re not using it properly, so I’m going to take it and use it.” He then scammed the account. He gave some of the items to his friends, who defended themselves by saying: “I didn’t do the scam - I’m just using the gear. There’s nothing you can do about it.”
The response was unanimous. Across multiple communities - including American ones - this logic was rejected outright. It was recognized for what it was: a scam. And it didn’t just harm one player - it fractured trust across the entire community. When moderators reviewed the case, they didn’t debate intent or efficiency. They ruled it theft and banned both the scammer and those knowingly benefiting from it.
The reason was simple: if access can be retroactively turned into ownership because someone decides you’re “wasting” what you have, cooperation becomes impossible. Sharing becomes risk. Friendships collapse. That argument didn’t become acceptable just because it was framed as competence or better use. It was still stealing.
That’s why this matters. Saying “they aren’t using it properly, so someone else should take it” isn’t a policy disagreement - it’s a worldview. And everywhere that worldview is applied - in games, markets, or states - it produces the same result: a massive fracture in the community, the collapse of trust, and ultimately the death of the system itself.
Denmark isn't misusing Greenland's resources, it isn't using them at all because it can't guarantee a worthwhile return on investment.
Again, I don't care about Greenland. A fully developed Greenland is worth less than Home Depot. It would take decades for the sort of investment they need to pay off. Still, someone should get on that.
I don't understand why you guys are so passionate that Denmark maintain control over a welfare state they refuse to develop.
This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Jan 8 2026 02:23pm