2x harpoon for throw/ww, or just go 2x honor naga as pure ww

no other good option

I was afraid of that lol.

I do have a question for ya!

What do you think this POON is worth? I don't know if I overpaid for it, but I didn't wanna pass it up. (I paid 2.5k)

normally, not good, u dont want ll on weapons since ll is capped at 8%(string of ears) mostly cuz of druids

Have you guys tried Sigons 2 piece Set?

Helm + Glove:

Sigons Visor; (Great Helm)
Defense: 55-60 (varies)(Base Defense: 30-35)
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 63
Durability: 40
+25 Defense
+30 to Mana
+ (8 Per Character Level) 8-792 To Attack Rating (Based On Character Level) (2 Items)

Sigons Cage: (Gauntlets)
Defense: 12-15 (varies)
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 60
Durability: 24
+20 to Attack Rating
+10 to Strength
30% Increased Attack Speed (2 Items)

Nice as well, but hard to get cnbf as a lvl 30 without deaths.

I'm just spitballing here, but after reading such a huge list of rules I need to follow to be a GM LLD, why not just make cold damage against the rules, too?

This post was edited by Homosexual419 on Jan 4 2026 02:59am

Because then people cannot sell their items with cold damage.
It’s the same as gm melee: «oh i have this rare which is worse than grief, i need to ban grief to sell it»

Omg I think we're onto something... Obvious.

Do you think rules have been made up in any way to make other people's items valuable? I think sooo

Hell, I was just told my throw weap on my barb is trash because it has life leech on it. Not allowed to wear Soe!

This post was edited by Homosexual419 on Jan 4 2026 04:30am

And so basically it’s forcing you to use CbF against all matchups where SoE could have been useful.
So, we go back to my initial comment… death belt+gloves seems BiS, which allow you to use 20ias harpoons and meet both throw and ww requirements.
If you don’t have cold dmg on weapons, then you need it from anywhere else. This is ensuring your opponent is forced to use death instead of SoE.
But since death combo also comes with the capped 8% leech, then you can’t have leech on weapons (same as if you were gonna use SoE).

Also, from what I see, sojs seem very hard to beat on throw/ww hybrid… you lack a lot of skill points to invest in 2 masteries, 2 skills, all your warcries and passives. With a full inv of 3/20/15 it seems sojs are just beating any gg lvl 30 rare rings in every aspect (except fcr). Those extra % ar/ed/crit/life/mana you get result in much more dmg than rares as they multiply already high flat numbers. They’re also passively giving you res/def/frw.

I would build something with very basic gear on most slots:
Death belt+gloves (up’d 1x)
Sanders boots (up’d 1x)
2x soj
Peace MP 15ed

Then the expensive part is:
2x 20ias harpoons (no leech to be GM)
Amy
Circ 1/30/20/2os (20fcr + another 20 on tele staff)
40x 3/20/15 scs (or some with 3frw or 5fhr, 1 with cold dmg if not on other gear)

This is how I would approach this build, but again… I don’t LLD

Hey,

I deleted our PMs when my box was full (classic)

Can you remind me of the skill tree? I've pretty much finished throwing together my barb and wanna try it out