I wanna start a classic svs ladder and would like to see how much people willing to play so if ur up for it just post something down here

Rules are pretty much the same as back in legacy but will post soon if I see some interests

There will be a price pool of 5k from myself and who ever like to donate something.. 😉

i'm good to follow this. thanks for hosting !

i would play fireball sorc or blizzard i don't know yet in nonladder ofc.

useast was far more populated then west asia or eurp
useast had more west asia and eurp players, then west asia and eurp did by alot.

this is why USEAST "rules" are king, because that is pretty much where 95%+ of people played

and generally speaking why east pretty much had all the "good" players, because east had players from everywhere it wasnt just east

useast didnt have "rules" in pvp so when i see a comment like " rules are pretty much the same as back in legacy " i right away start thinking to myself

there is no rules in classic svs you want the rules for the last 25+ years? they are quite simple

you can only use mana potions, you cant use thaws,antidotes,healings,juvs,etc
and going to town on purpose is considered a loss/surrender

there simply is pretty much no other rules any other rules for the most part besides those 2 rules i just listed above are not actual rules that have been implimented
by the majority for the last 25+years and instead additional rules other then those 2 rules are rules that were created by small groups of peoples here and there on certain
realms

you know i want to stop for a moment you really want to know what my problem with the whole rule thing is

east starts with no rules, and people can have a friendly discussion to add rules if they both agree, if they cant there is always a base to fall on

eurp starts with a huge list of rules, and people are not aloud to have friendly conversations about changing rules, instead its quite the opposite and toxic, and people not following these rules
are considered "bm" or dueling with "bm rules"

i personally believe those rules were made by people who got destroyed on USEAST and went back to eurp and basically altered the match ups to move power into a different area.

and id like to throw in one or two examples on my way out ok?

lets say for example stacking cold resistance or fire resistance with a 3 socketed shield or noak/hotspurs ok?

the way i view this is i do not think that those items cant be overcome, i think i am going to win no mater what side of the fense i am on, which is weird because i dont actually use either of those items
with my build right? but im here defending them??, if i am a fireball sorceress, and someone wants to use hotspurs and noak against me, im perfectly fine with this its not a big deal to me imo its not going
to help them beat me, in fact making it so they are not aloud to use high stacked FR vs me is going to give me a huge advantage over them, they cant beat me with 95%fr they not going to beat me with 75-85%
its the same thing for 120%cr shield, i dont use this either, but them using it isnt going to help them.

now what really happens is a bad user, or a user not as good as another user, gets beat by a player using one of these items, doesnt know how to overcome it or simply isnt a strong enough user or is getting
outplayed, and thinks, THATS OP, SHOULD BE NERFED. but this isnt the case most likely they just got outplayed

So many false statements its crazy to read

East classic wasnt 95% of the playerbase, Europe was active and with a lot of players at least until 2014-2015..
East classic was always less skilled than europe for the exact reason you stated : the lack of rules to balance the pvp. I will give you that east was the realm of the best hammerdins because all you guys did was abusing clag over n over until you were so good at being invisible on the map. But about anything that requires to have good namelocking skills, fast reactions, good reflex and survivability Europe was better. Because having rules kept the chars beatable and not based on your equ only.
In order to beat a sorc you would have to actually be good and not only put on your hotspurs..
All of your "pros" were jokes.... your self proclaimed best necro was only hidding so far away and pro invisible bs spammer, not to mention most of your guys were using hacks...

Your duels were so based on your laming abilities/equ abusing that you guys prefered repl on items rather than fhr lol....
Our duels were fast paced, no juving, no laming, based only on your skills with your mouse n keyboard.

You think you were good because you can flee the fight anytime smthing hit you and repl everything back while spamming a ton randomly..

It takes smthing else to 1v4 with a char that can die in 4-5hits while being agressive on the map.

other realms were dead as fuck compared to east there might have been private groups on other realms but east thrived with lists of public games and much much bigger player base
while other realms were very dead looking like D2R is these days

" balance the pvp " this is the problem exactally you think a player putting on hotspurs silences a fireball sorc but it doesnt misconseption from
weaker user, fireballer gets beat by hotspurs sorc and cries balance, but we could switch the rolls and i will murder that hotspurs sorc for all their forum gold

im god name lock? chain lock telipop, you say eurp was better but, i beat ever west asia and eurp player i ever dueled? ive dueled eurp already
and they all lost, and im a legit user? you talk about hacks, but i kill hackers, hacks dont work vs me just like hotspurs wont my character assend
past TMC/AA people using FHR HACKS like TMC, yall kids trying to match fhr of fhr hacked users while im over here 0 fhr going "replenish" being 1 step up
on hackers

and most sorceress from east really didnt do that either most players from east still used fhr that was a very few people who understand why fhr sucks

we didnt juv? we didnt lame? only based on skills with mouse and keyboard also you make it sound like we are over here juving in legit gm duels tf

and its funny to me that you think that the replenish sorceress is fleeing LOL im a god user bro these cats CANT EVEN HIT ME WITH AUTOAIM and u think im fleeing?
ive always been the aggressor in duels, you think im fighting hackers and running away from them replenishing? thats not whats happening LMFAO guy i have
some replenish but i actually stack mana over replenish LMFAO i actually kill these "OP" replenish sorceress ur speaking of with mana, why dont you go nerf
mana or put some restrictions on that instead of nerfing a shit stat like replenish that has been losing for the last 50years? mana is undefeated vs replenish
on USEAST but your still stuck on eurp thinking replenish is king/op LMFAO

and by the way when me and a hacker fight i dont run from them and replenish, they run from me, why would i need to run im out healing them and have more life/mana then them LMFAO
wtf would i run for? and even if a player wants to run alittle bit so what im destroying him he needs to run or hes going to stand there and die

and u talking about some selfproclaimed necro blah blah blah idk who u talking about but 2000-2015 i am the best necro user from USEAST

you know what sucks about when i am the best user? i have strong history like duped item, meaning if you were to contact lets say the other top 10 necros or sorceress or etc
they are all going to give me the nod

bro no offense to eurp like while this is a east vs eurp rule thing im actually good friends with eurp players im extremely mannered but honestly bro east users went through
it different honestly i dont think any of the eurp users could beat any of easts like top 15-20 users
pLz-takeaseat yall cant beat kyle from pLz
drewbert-faf yall cant beat drewbert
mattico from evil yall cant beat these users...
SZSZ-darktask not even a friend of mine but yall cant beat this player
Los svs cant remember tag he was actually really strong
we had like 4 nicks, nick the fireballer he was a really good user
tomatocan Jim from pLz/leader
Luna and Lady are on a MASSIVE win record in svs a record so great svs died on USEAST lax of winnor
even like dopefiendz_nate
or the other nate (forgot other nates tag hes very old school)

i dont even need to duel because the stronger users on this list eurp cant beat

just wild to me you talk about east players like you dueled them often, when east players never went to eurp(a dead realm) to duel EURP went to east to duel reguardless if u dispute
this or not my point is i have already dueled alot of eurp players which to be fair prolly isnt fair because of lat but it is what it is

This post was edited by Jvun7 on Dec 23 2025 03:35pm

You think its wild that I speak about east players while you did the exact same first... I mean im pretty sure you have no idea who are Stef/ilya/Tom for example and these were the best sorcs in eu classic..

I rly dont want to be rude or anything I just felt like you were looking down to europe while you have limited knowledges about the realm.

Instead of writing down full essays why dont we make this interesting : this is my offer : Im visiting my family in Europe rn but I live in Canada since 2,5 years, I will be back there around the 8th or 9th of january, I quit playing d2 games like 3 years ago so I do not have a b.net account anymore but I can still log on d2ga.net. what about an svs duel in there ? Same gears, same build, and d2ga is an east realm so no issues about ping. What do you say ? Of course d2ga is a lod private server but hey sorc vs sorc is not that different in lod compared to classic
Im rly curious and looking forward to see your locking, chainlocking abilities. If you are the best ever you should win very easily vs a retired european sorc player that was barely in top 10 Europe sorc ever (lod/classic)

Oh and merry xmas to yall

This post was edited by Youshould on Dec 24 2025 06:42am

There was even more good ppl btw 😂

But yea I agree

wtf literally who even are you..?
you forget your meds cuh..?

Yeah forgot many ofc I just mentionned a few but no point listing them all, Jvun7 dont know them anyway 😆



Take care he's going to call you an europe player xD

Im pretty sure he doesnt even know the real top east/west players as he prolly only pvp'd in classic L

Good question (from an European xD)