communism is over 66.600 years old
its the foundation of humanity and a family


Prevent Fascism = creating fascism.
banning thought processes is the most dangerous

"tribes didnt build iphones" mentality is so reductionist. is life better now? obviously, 100%. but tribal society carried human beings through what? a million years?

tribal society didnt flourish, it survived. now we have mrna vaccines, nuclear weapons, and social media. we can still say our lives and societies are obviously superior while recognizing and respecting that tribal society survived such a long time that we have to respect it.

i also have to laugh at the "they were all just killing each other" in this context. that's an improper argument, its used to deny the false idea that native americans were peaceful. its moot when arguing society vs tribes. europeans were all killing each other for 1000 years too before we arrived here.

the free market idea is when things really started improving. free market system was also started in a christian country USA

I'm not sure what the argument here is? You are supporting my argument that tribal society was bad. My argument isn't that extinction is preferable to tribal society. Has civilizational society not carried humans forward? Where did I make the argument that technological advancement is everything? It's something but largely irrelevant in the context of barbarity vs. civilization.

Tribal society was obviously better than extinction. Humans persisted in that society but they never flourished - extremely low life expectancy and quality of life, living in perpetual terror. Civilization doesn't only flourish but persists as well. Humans have persisted through numerous collapses of civilization, so I'm not sure how the fact that tribes persisted is an argument against it. The neolithic revolution is responsible for the explosion in human population.

Quantity and proportion matters - the level of bloodshed in tribal society vs. civilization are orders of magnitude apart. Entire tribes were regularly slaughtered. Population numbers in these societies were abysmal and held down by this reality. It turns out that having fixed & fortified structures stops most of this bloodshed instead of erecting tents and moving every week.

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 15 2025 02:01pm

continued existence for hundreds of thousands of years shouldn't imo be categorized as bad. that's incredibly impressive. and even before society as we now know it existed we didnt just survive, we conquered our environment around us. we drove our natural predators to the brink of extinction with just stone tools. we derived a number of way to turn inedible or even poisonous foods into edible food. etc.

i think a general point aboud the comparison of bloodshed between tribes and civilizations is accurate, but i dont think in the context of european first contact its nearly as strong. in the 1400s all the way up to the 1700s bloodshed was rampant in Europe. only colonialism and shifting the battle elsewhere tuned it down.

Let's define fascism before we argue about it, huh?

Anyone got a real definition for it? Not like a dictionary actual definition, but one that makes you feel right! You know what I mean, right?

As long as the definition makes you feel good, lets go with it!

Being healthy is fascist

Being a short stick figure and somehow thinking that youre an untouchable giant is a popular fascist opinion.

You probably cant define honesty either.

From my observation of the left and their cries of fascism, they clearly equate facism with health and this is the most succinct definition I can articulate

Physical health, mental health, spiritual health, family health, social health, societal health, institutional health. It's all "fascism". Another word for health could be Order - order is facism. Order and health are synonymous - things are healthy when they are in good working order, like a well oiled and maintained machine.

Disorder, madness, & slavery to sin is glorified and glamourized as 'freedom' in an Orwellian inversion of truth

This post was edited by El1te on Jan 29 2026 12:55pm