Dont worry tung, in general discussion / pvp / trophy room. You will find the worst of users taking pride in being cocky/unpolite for no specific reasons
Respect is something vanishing over the years, sadly its not earned and indulged in every human being

Ya sorry I wasn't really contributing to the discussion. Its just something that whenever the switch happened the new terminology never made sense to me.

Jeez the dudu soso baba stuff bothered me too. baba soso started from korean players in the early 2000s, I'm fairly sure dudu was added from europe and europe also took the renaming character torch as well. I believe mostly because people were not primarily English speakers.

US West wasn't really completely infected by the names, like I previously said it was mostly an Asia / Europe server thing.

Haven't read all posts.

Late 1.09 they introduced 1.10 runewords before patch 1.10 came out. Thus that item occured before patch was made.

In v1.09 before 1.10 release, we could make all the runewords, we could also test all the new Ubers and hunted keys etc, it was fun and exciting, finding out that you need 3 sets of keys in Hell to ensure you got the Ubers for Organs... we used to open them up once and had to HOPE on it being a different one.

And now, everyone knows since all the beta testing was done in 1.09

All good, I appreciate you coming back to clarify. And the terms Europe uses doesn't really bother much as much as they confuse me.

I just remembered another... Calling a grush bumper a "gater" lol. Oh, and yeah I guess that makes sense being a bunch of ESL speakers trying to understand strange English words that aren't common (because they're mostly found in game worlds, like sorceress and Amazon). And you're right about "soso" coming from Asia... Because I've played a ladder season on a Korean private server before and they would say Soso very often. They also called paladin "pdin" which I've never seen someone do before.

US East (my main realm) has our own ESL speakers (the quebecoise players) so we have plenty of experience with people who aren't exactly super familiar with English... So it leads to a bunch of strange terms being said by ONLY French US East players instead of the English US East users.

This post was edited by Emiliaaa on Dec 11 2025 04:05am

Someone posted a 6os eth zerker axe with the zod bug a few weeks ago, would that not technically work with a rune word?

Yes, you will have runeword with the indestructible mod. That is what the ITH runewords were back in the day.

Get eth item
Zod for indestructible
Remove with hel, keep indestructible
Silence runeword in the weapon along with 40/15s and ohm runes (bugged ofc)

If I remember correctly my hex'd out barb did 56k damage (zerk I think...) and zon did 32k damage (guided arrow)

So even in current day if someone has one of these kicking around they can make some bugged gear eh lol wild

zod bug happened when people put zod in ethereal items in 1.09 and then took them out in 1.1. you could still zbug a few hours or days after 1.1 but it wasnt long.

i had a bunch of female gamer friends w/ 6 soc eth zbug berserkers and 3 os eth berserkers. they decided to creatively make their own weapons when it got boring using ITHs and crafting cruel mythicals. 1.09 also had made it possible to have 3 os warcry weps and 3 os mythicals. like zod bug this ended start of 1.1

anyways, they ended up selling these eth zbug axes for hrs to enjoy the ladder runewords instead. stupid imo but you can always hero edit ^^

suffice to say how good would an ethereal fury be or ethereal last wish vs rares/main streams of today? not a big deal in a fcr based arena.

D2r is garbage for dueling. different game and fhr rules.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Dec 12 2025 02:42pm

Yes my VT was already using God PB and SOP ST at this time. Was very rare then. Even 75fcr VT was rare then, did not see anyone else using 75fcr back then. I used 75fcr with spirit before hybrid runewords was existing at all. But as soon as there was hybrid runewords i knew i needed those two.
Was also considering a Exile of Phoenix as a anti ASSA + DRUID shield in 2v2/3v3/4v4, but i did not end up with that and used a eth bugged exile instead, but sop more fun and more agressive.

I sometimes daydream that i would relive that D2 time, farm up on item bugs like Highlord Lacerator combi amulet, etc And im sure im not alone xD

I mean, bug belt is like a combination of:
Str, IAS and leech from nos, pierce from razor, skill and slow from arach, 20@ from extra, 20% DR kinda buffed dungo, 25dex because why not...
And such items makes or break fun builds...

My throwbarb would have only 8% dr if i had to use nos instead of bugbelt for those 10ias.
My werewolf would miss resists and DR as well.
My 3zon would miss ias and resists.

Assa builds with gore riders would be harder without valk 08 etc.

This post was edited by gel87 on Dec 14 2025 01:59am

You could Zbug with a method that got patched with the hybrid runewords but only 1 person I know knew how to do it. He sold a few zbug items on east iirc