Yo.

Looking for inputs on change for throwbarb.

Situation is that im running p8 with lvl 55 enchant, firesunder, merc with infy. My main dmg is kinda fire, so instead of running warshrike+lacerator, im considering to replace lacerator with something else, since it doesnt add much value, and makes monsters flee once in a while. Amp doesnt do much either.

Running with:
2/20/7ml/19 @res/39life/cham'ed diadem
hl
warshrike+lacerator atm
2x fcr rings with leech/res adds
goreriders - should change also into something else?
laying of hands
razortail
enigma


Any suggestions what to replace it with? double warshrike doesnt make sense either.

lmk

This post was edited by StoreFarmand on Dec 9 2025 10:41pm

Hey man, I recently finished my 99 Barb climb WITH Throw Barb and my own 55 chanter following me around

I did do Lacerator and Warshrike.
Belt - 8LL 15% DR String (Up'd) - More LL and helps counter the sund more
Warshrike gives your paid hand 50% pierce too, so you don't need the pierce on the belt.
Boots, I went with War Travs. They added 200min-300max damage. If your goal is to clear P8 96 TZ areas, they give much more damage. CB is only worth putting on if you're boss farming.
LoH is, of course, a no-brainer, good shit there.
The only other difference was I used a 3os 20 Fcr Hat. 2x 15ias/15 Max + Cham. (place cham at bottom ofc)
You want max damage over ED since the weapons are lower damage. The IAS helps with breakpoints.

You could buy a 10k Eth 40ias 440+ ED Ghost Glaive, which does shoot further (only really good for PVP imo)
But since you're doing chant and sund, I'd honestly just use the lacerator and WS. I did use both, and I didn't find any real difference.

I also used a Wiz + 35% Fcr Spirit Monarch on swap (lol I know...)

It gave me 105% Fcr to get around, and because I pumped a ton into Dex for more damage, I had 105% FCR and Max block on this swap with plenty of mana. Highly recommend!

I had 4,500ish HP and that was more than enough. Never died on the way to 99. (very few close calls from lag)

Here is a random screenie from the climb. (WS needs mainhand so both weapons get 100% pierce)


This post was edited by Homosexual419 on Dec 9 2025 11:18pm

ty for feedback, ill think ill take razortail over SoE and getting 83% pierce instead. ive done this before few season ago, so its fine, was just looking to upgrade if there was better options.
ill have massive mana on rings combined with mana leech from diadem and rings.
ill exchange the boots with WT tho i guess.
i guess ill rather do double warshrike then to avoid monsters flee

not sure what u mean with 100% pierce?

This post was edited by StoreFarmand on Dec 9 2025 11:20pm

With your throw mastery + WS in the main hand, both weapons get 100% pierce. The razor tail does give you some other neat stats tho!

Here to help you theorycraft:
https://sins-of-the-sun.github.io/double-throw-ias-calc/?mhWSM=-20&ohWSM=-10&mhIAS=30&ohIAS=30&offWeaponIAS=40&fanaticism=0&frenzy=0&markOfTheBear=0&burstOfSpeed=0&holyFreeze=0&decrepify=0&chilled=0&slowPercent=0

Improving your current throw speed would be the goal IMO, but it’s a bit hard without Faith merc or Metamorphosis…

What I would do personally is use a standard approach more oriented toward phys dmg, at 7 frames double throw speed. Your enchant is just a nice cherry on top, but I wouldn’t sacrifice everything else just to try to pump your fire dmg.
Your fire dmg is gonna be very low anyway vs immunes as you lower them to 95-17=78% fire res.
It would take forever to kill them if you have low phys dmg, slow ias and no amp. Even worse vs phys+fire immunes.

you should def keep warshrike/lacerator for this setup

amp and physical dmg still does a very big part of your dps and is well worth it over anything else

i assume you're using an infinity merc, which u should

you could up your dps a bit with meramorph like sins mentioned above

or you could just swap that helm for a 2 soc one with 15/40 and cham for an extra frame

nonetheless normally warshrike/lacerator is meh but its def the best for that infinity enchant route

Hi, your build is great. In my opinion you should run faith merc. (inner sight = massive hit chance, and faith helps reaching 4fpa).
Metamoprhosis last only 180 seconds, and requires a beast on bo side and cube swap or always wear metamorphosis, for pvm i think its a little much for work for 3,5 fpa...
Very nice in pvp though, as you need those 20% DR as well... And then use Doom + Beast other side with wirl as secondary attack.

I would use 60ias break and lvl 15 fana merc.
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/?data=2-0-War_Dart-0-0-Balanced_Axe-30-Double_Throw-3-0-15-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

There is no 60 ias bp
This warren’s calc link you posted is showing that you would need 60ias on primary weapon

The bps are 14 then 69 like shown here:
https://sins-of-the-sun.github.io/double-throw-ias-calc/?mhWSM=-20&ohWSM=-10&mhIAS=30&ohIAS=30&offWeaponIAS=0&fanaticism=33&frenzy=0&markOfTheBear=0&burstOfSpeed=0&holyFreeze=0&decrepify=0&chilled=0&slowPercent=0

Okay, might be the case. Have not control checked warrens ias calc on double throw, and if you ask him questions everything is a secret(no reply).
Which formula do you use?
I used this back in d2lod and early d2r:
EIAS = FLOOR(70-WSM+SKILLIAS+(120*IAS/(120+IAS));1)
FPA = CEILING(256*12/FLOOR(256*EIAS/100;1);1)/2

The formula needed correct WSM input after stuff like WSM bug. I assume this one is outdated in the new system. Because this would require 80 ias to reach 4fpa. (8/2). Secondary wepon used to be force casted between main wepon in early d2r and d2lod anyway, so did not matter.

Anyway, he is fine with his gear then due to Warshrike + HL + LOH = 70, and lac side has same.

This post was edited by gel87 on Dec 11 2025 04:24am