Israel does have a strong military but the idea that they could 'streamroll' Iran is crazy, the geopolitical situation is far more complex than that.
it would be anything but one-sided, Iran showed incredible restraint in the conflict earlier this year but that doesnt mean they are without their own military strength
China, Russia, and NKorea all have economic ties/partnerships with Iran so I dont understand why you are so quick to write off hypothetical military support? especially in self defense (which WOULD be the case). not to mention Iran's proxy groups throughout the region and its northern control of the straight of Hormuz which 20% of the global trade passes through
I never mentioned Iran having nuclear weapons but they have been working on their accelerated program despite Trump and Bibi trying to stop it. Iran is far, far more dangerous a threat than you seem to believe
I am not using ChatGpt so some of my points might be off. I am just writing through memory and my personal thoughts.
I am not completely well educated on the middle east theater. But from a rather superficial point of view, I would think Iran currently do not exactly post too much of a threat to Israel.
So far it is still early to indicate and in this case China giving support to Iran.
During the civil war in Ukraine starting in 2014 onward up until now a full blown war. In Obama's words " He is surprised through intelligence that the
Chinese didn't give Russia a single bullet. I remember reading it somewhere.
That, being said, as devastating Nuclear or Atomic weapons can be.. Biological weapons are far more effective.
One can actually debate or argue that
Covid is some kind of biological weapon. But Covid did spread fast, much more potent than your Seasonal influenza during it's initial stage.
Iran at the moment is muted and somehow emasculated with their hard and software.
But to be fair Iran is actually quite rational. Given the amount of attacks that Israel launch on Iran and killing their top guys in the military with precision. I am surprised that they haven't done something that is more devastating to Israel.
They already broke through Israel's iron dome.
So here comes the two superficial assessment. Either they are not as powerful as what some people deem they are or they are just holding back.
What I am deeply concern about is war activity in the East. To be honest because I am from that region, but if shit happens hey, I can just move back to Singapore.
Why I am concern is because if shit happens, I have every reason to believe that the Chinese will drag US into a direct confrontation and that will be ruinous.
Obviously we have war hawkish guys in the States and also in this particular forum going with the assumption that US will beat the Chinese into a pulp with Japan / Taiwan / South Korea and allies NZ and AUS.
They think the Chinese are going to battle with the United States and allies troop against troop, military hardware and software against each other and talking points about Chinesiums so on and so for and how weak the Chinese is ( Paper Tiger )
But I think everyone forget one very important trait with the CPC.
Let's put it this way, you have bomb shelters so does the Chinese.
Civilians will be sacrificed. And the Chinese have no problem sacrificing theirs and also aim for yours.
If we look back into Mao's era that the main talking point...
and others have mention a couple of times partly due to
Geo Political viewpoints. That Mao purposely killed 60 Million and Upwards of Chinese civilians which is half true. He didn't order them to be systematically killed off like Hitler's regime.
So some of the comments that might be made, is more emotive than facts at times.
It was an economical and agricultural tragedy.
But I have never tried to correct them in this forum because they are half right and I can empathize with the Anti Chinese Sentiments. My family got everything taken away by the Communist, so I can understand the intense hate.
And my aunties were tied to a pole in a public square during the cultural revolution and spit on by the red guards.
But let's put it as he did it on purpose ( Which I believe is not true), let's take it as it is. If the CPC is that bloody with absolutely no regards of human lives. This will be more worrying especially for those that are going to be directly involved themselves in the upcoming war in the East.
If you take away anywhere between 600 to 800 million Chinese lives they will still comeback. If you take away 95% of the Chinese troops and civilians combined and that is a if, other countries allies or not will come together and target you in a concerted effort.
Because you are literally going out to genocide and wipe out the entire civilization
That being said if the Chinese take out in combine Taiwans / Japan / Philippines / USA in total of anywhere between 200 to 250 million in total. That will probably be the end.
There are a lot of calculations of how much, USA in particular can take when it comes to civilians. If you lose anywhere between 60 to 100 million... You are done.
I am sure the Chinese will not bomb or throw nukes in highly Hispanic and black populations or Democratic areas in the USA. If such a direct war happens. China will do something that Trump can never do. You will probably see tens of millions of illegal immigrants rushing for the border.
We cannot afford major nuclear powers going neck to neck with one another. Even with Russia, Ukraine was used as a proxy.
Russia have been very and extremely in my point of view rational with the Ukraine war and did hold back in certain ways because there is still kinship between both.
The Chinese on the other won't give two shits about the Taiwanese even if they are ethnically Han ( If Mao can kill 60 Million upwards, Taiwan have a population around 20 to 25 million).
With Japan, they can't wait to drop nukes because of how the Japanese tried to and with help from the USA and now the West trying to dilute the war crimes the Japanese did.
( Imagine the current German politicians president and prime minister etc etc visiting and laying flowers to Hitler and friends in an elaborated cemetery to honour war heroes) What would the Jews think.
So the CPC will be more than willing to devastate Japan. I think around 55 to 58% of the Japanese population are in very old age, it will be pretty much done.
Long story short the CPC will just take you along with it. And China is no longer in a state like the late Qing during the 1st and 2nd Opium war where a collective effort of 8 western and modernized countries including Japan made the Qing government and royalty kneel.
So we are in for a rather rough ride. Diplomacy and dialogue, give and take is extremely important in this multi polar world.
And when everyone else is devastated.... the Indians who will most likely be left rather unscathed will flex and I wouldn't be surprised that they will start flooding the West even more.
This is just my personal opinion though.
This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Dec 4 2025 07:18pm