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Dec 2 2025 11:21am
Not surprising as most of you probably have the same unfiltered scource of disinformation.


i have comprehensively outlined my views over the years, and i am happy to answer any and all questions. why dont you give us a comprehensive account of your view sothat we can dissect it.
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Dec 2 2025 11:28am
i have comprehensively outlined my views over the years, and i am happy to answer any and all questions. why dont you give us a comprehensive account of your view sothat we can dissect it.


Why not make the conditions more complicated by banning the use of the word "orc" in this essay. It will be a few lines long, so yes, an essay :)
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Dec 2 2025 11:38am
Why not make the conditions more complicated by banning the use of the word "orc" in this essay. It will be a few lines long, so yes, an essay :)


You make a valid point. Until I see an actual coherent argument, I am doomed to repetition. I won't hold my breath on that though. Perhaps these one liner types of response are for the best, if certain users ever tried to produce something substantive, it would be far too easy to pick apart. Staying brief and provocative with one liners and dehumanizing terms keeps them in the thread, and where would the fun be if they disappeared altogether?

This is not an attack, it is just my musing. How in the world is the western narrative so bad? How are they not able to properly defend the wests position. it really is astounding.

The EU refuses to talk or Negotiate with Russia
Ukraine refuses to Negotiate with Russia

The argument for this position is basically an ALL-IN in poker terms, with no room for walking away with anything other then all the chips, or no chips. so dumb.

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Dec 2 2025 12:11pm
You make a valid point. Until I see an actual coherent argument, I am doomed to repetition. I won't hold my breath on that though. Perhaps these one liner types of response are for the best, if certain users ever tried to produce something substantive, it would be far too easy to pick apart. Staying brief and provocative with one liners and dehumanizing terms keeps them in the thread, and where would the fun be if they disappeared altogether?

This is not an attack, it is just my musing. How in the world is the western narrative so bad? How are they not able to properly defend the wests position. it really is astounding.

The EU refuses to talk or Negotiate with Russia
Ukraine refuses to Negotiate with Russia

The argument for this position is basically an ALL-IN in poker terms, with no room for walking away with anything other then all the chips, or no chips. so dumb.


i think it has less to do with being All In, and more to do with overly sensitive people obsessed with optics. they're more concerned with media coverage that might make them look weak or bad than they are human lives.

if the USA walked away from the negotiating table and said "ok you guys figure it out", we'd either see another nation come in as an intermediary like France or Germany. Or we'd see Ukraine and the UK take up negotiations themselves. they're using the USA as a crutch to negotiate on their behalf, so they can look like tough guys who cant be asked to be seen with Putin.
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Dec 2 2025 12:15pm
what's your kill count on civilian men, women and children? It's the internet and no one is going to judge you so you can be honest.


Gaza? Iraq anyone?

Ah you don't care


Chechnya?


Part of the Russian federation. Ofc you fully supported that war, the CIA did too!

FAFO
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Dec 2 2025 12:24pm
i think it has less to do with being All In, and more to do with overly sensitive people obsessed with optics. they're more concerned with media coverage that might make them look weak or bad than they are human lives.

if the USA walked away from the negotiating table and said "ok you guys figure it out", we'd either see another nation come in as an intermediary like France or Germany. Or we'd see Ukraine and the UK take up negotiations themselves. they're using the USA as a crutch to negotiate on their behalf, so they can look like tough guys who cant be asked to be seen with Putin.


No, France or Germany or any European nation can not do that, i explained previously why - EU foreign policy needs all 27 euro states to agree, before they talk to Russia. thats why they all hate Orban in Hungary at the moment because he is unilaterally talking to Russia. When Angela Merkel (germany) was in office she wanted a summit to discuss the Ukraine issue with Russia. Poland and the Baltic states vetoed that. They vetoed an attempt to prevent the war from happening. As I said before, europe is the titanic, moving under its own inertia. it cant turn away from the ice berg as to do so needs 27 states to agree to turn, and Poland and Co. wont agree to negotiate with Russia.

Ukraine also will not back pedal on their position, they are locked in (no negotiations, no talks) and to give land would be seen as a betrayal.

China would be the obvious country to step in again to try to broker a peace deal but the US would probably derail that. Ultimately it is looking more and more likely that more of Ukraine will be swallowed up. WW3 remains on the table im afraid. On the news today they were openly talking about europe going to war with Russia.

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No, France or Germany or any European nation can not do that, i explained previously why - EU foreign policy needs all 27 euro states to agree, before they talk to Russia. thats why they all hate Orban in Hungary at the moment because he is unilaterally talking to Russia. When Angela Merkel (germany) was in office she wanted a summit to discuss the Ukraine issue with Russia. Poland and the Baltic states vetoed that. They vetoed an attempt to prevent the war from happening. As I said before, europe is the titanic, moving under its own inertia. it cant turn away from the ice berg as to do so needs 27 states to agree to turn, and Poland and Co. wont agree to negotiate with Russia.

Ukraine also will not back pedal on their position, they are locked in (no negotiations, no talks) and to give land would be seen as a betrayal.

China would be the obvious country to step in again to try to broker a peace deal but the US would probably derail that. Ultimately it is looking more and more likely that more of Ukraine will be swallowed up. WW3 remains on the table im afraid. On the news today they were openly talking about europe going to war with Russia.


in reality the USA isnt going anywhere, Trump likes his "peacemaker" title too much to balk. but i still think if a real issue like that did come in the EU would flex the rules to avoid disaster. rules work (or in this case dont) decently in long drawn out peace times, but when war comes rules go away quick. the UK is the real let down, no EU membership but still acting like an EU sock puppet.
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Dec 2 2025 12:58pm
Gaza? Iraq anyone?

Ah you don't care




Part of the Russian federation. Ofc you fully supported that war, the CIA did too!

FAFO

Idk why you think I would support the Iraq war.

And I seriously looked into adopting an orphan from Gaza when the war started and found it cant be done. What did you do?
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Dec 2 2025 01:05pm
Idk why you think I would support the Iraq war.

And I seriously looked into adopting an orphan from Gaza when the war started and found it cant be done. What did you do?


I don't support NATO expansion, if I got my way it would've saved millions of casualties on both sides

Take that
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Dec 2 2025 01:30pm
in reality the USA isnt going anywhere, Trump likes his "peacemaker" title too much to balk. but i still think if a real issue like that did come in the EU would flex the rules to avoid disaster. rules work (or in this case dont) decently in long drawn out peace times, but when war comes rules go away quick. the UK is the real let down, no EU membership but still acting like an EU sock puppet.


you cannot underestimate human stupidity.
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