I was thinking about trying something different for a ssf / ladder reset character, and so I wanted to get some feedback regarding a hybrid kick/trap sin on a budget (no high runes). I love assassins because they have so many great abilities and they are very safe for hc. My goal is to be able to farm anywhere on p1 hardcore (especially travincal, pits, and maybe nilathak), and I want around 250% magic find so that means I would like to use skullders, goldwrap, upped wartravs, and shako.


1. Is Venom worth it for PvM? I am familiar with the mechanics of venom but never really used it pvm. I tried 20 hard pts venom (~lvl 27 total) with trang gloves, and the damage didn't seem that great even on p1. Maybe I am tripping or missing something though.

2. What would be the best budget weapon? I like Lawbringer for many reasons (cheap runeword / decrep / sanctuary / -50% target defense / added dmg / life leech), but maybe there is a better option.

3. Should I put 20 hard pts into Dragon Talon? The AR and damage is helpful but sometimes it is a little annoying being stuck for 5 kicks. It is really great for lightning immunes.


I know we have some experienced sins here so any feedback is welcome!

1. No (lol)

2. Cmoon PB, by very very far, both for traps and triggering static with dtalon

3. Last priority, max LS/synergies and fade before investing in dtalon. 4 or 5 kicks is fine, don’t overthink it, it’s your secondary skill

Assasin and pvm in same sentence = mosaic
very simple math

Did you even think outside of your box that maybe the person doesn't know what Mosaic is? and you think it is simple Math? Are you that arrogant to not explain it when giving advice.

I can make a Kicksin using kick skills, Light Sin using lightning skills, maybe even us Shadow and definitely not Shadow Master because I can not control how they use the skills which over ride what skills I am using etc... etc.

So... how about giving details of a Mosaic build and don't use the Blizz link where people can not view D2r builds without an account... how sad are blizzard now, hiding builds unless they get paid. (well that is my view, at least you can view all builds on jsp for free and not succumb to blizzard crap.)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 28 2025 09:06pm

Here is some old news of v1.09 ... the kick sin skills could teleport you to the opponent, however in PvP they did not realize this ... no joke, use a kicksin to cross over to the other side like River Waypoint area... you can not use kick skills to teleport into another room, you just had to see/click on your opponent... even the Guided Arrow PvP'er can get killed before their arrow hits.

Yup, dumb old shit that never got tested out even with pvp.

This, and 1 hard point venom once you get some +skills and a torch

Thanks, I tried this and it's working well. I tested 1 hard pt dragon talon and it was just fine, but I think the sweet spot for me might be 5-10 hard pts for just a bit more AR and 4 kicks.





Thanks I'll try this as well!

Yes try going for more kicks, ideally like 5 tbh

Thing with kick is the last kick of your sequence is always slow, but the “middle” ones are super fast. So if you just have 3 kicks, you only have 1 fast one, but if you have 5 kicks, you have 3 fast ones. Then again for this build it’s probably worth even maxing it and going for 6 kicks if possible. Makes you kick a lot more times per second = more procs

I enjoyed this in d2lod.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=87859201&f=87&o=0

It does not focus on LS, as you do not need LS.
Kick is strong enough to deal with single individuals extreamly fast, and then 5 x death sentry says boom and pack is dead, so you tele to next pack and kick down 1-2 monsters and another BOOM and pack is dead.
And the kick is super vs uber's and bosses as well.

Static-fueled by infinity, fast trigger due to fast dragon talon.
Effective ctc amp due to fast attacks with kick.
Kick with high CB fueled by amp, easy hit chance due to infinity and lighning damage from stormlash fueled by infinity.
Death sentry corpse explotion fueled by infinity as 50% of damage is fire, and 50% of damage is physical and fueled by amp (not the farthest away monsters), but enemies are already at like 25% HP from static so all vapourize anyway.

The stormshield fuels survivability, the amped ML and LL keeps you full, Mindblast or cloak of shadows if needed.

It's not a mosiac sin, but its effective.