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Nov 27 2025 12:56pm
It’s not ai, it’s a search engine. You can use it to find whatever results you want. You can make it contradict itself immediately. It’s not a source of information.


it sources information. as an example:

1. Reuters confirming Isreal breaking the cease fire agreement: https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/israeli-attacks-on-gaza-continue-despite-ceasefire-agreement/dGFnOnJldXRlcnMuY29tLDIwMjU6bmV3c21sX01UMUFOQURMMDAwVlZCT1dZ?
2. Al Jazeera also supports this narrative: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/19/israel-kills-at-least-25-palestinians-in-wave-of-gaza-attacks?
3. same with AP https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-ceasefire-hostages-03-18-2025-0df87331efc6a7b1dfd99275f52868a5?

i decided not to post the Haaretz one. tough crowd.

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The problem was already stated. You can make it say whatever you want it to, and then have it provide sources for that. That’s what a search engine does. Any safeguards against this are, by definition, bias programmed in by people, which is also a problem.

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The problem was already stated. You can make it say whatever you want it to, and then have it provide sources for that. That’s what a search engine does. Any safeguards against this are, by definition, bias programmed in by people, which is also a problem.


so your refuting what multiple sources are agreeing on and going with the one book, whose views you support/agree with ? is that it ? At a certain point you have to look at the data and say, what is the most logical fact here. well, thats what i do.

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so your refuting what multiple sources are agreeing on and going with the one book, whose views you support/agree with ? is that it ? At a certain point you have to look at the data and say, what is the most logical fact here. well, thats what i do.


Truth is rarely found in the hands of a majority. The number of people who believe a thing says nothing about it’s value.

Most of what I read are things I don’t agree with, because I want my mind to change if I’m wrong. I don’t know why you keep saying “one book” in an attempt to downplay the value of books in general. I hope you know that it’s possible to read more than one.

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Truth is rarely found in the hands of a majority. The number of people who believe a thing says nothing about it’s value.

Most of what I read are things I don’t agree with, because I want my mind to change if I’m wrong. I don’t know why you keep saying “one book” in an attempt to downplay the value of books in general. I hope you know that it’s possible to read more than one.


What I outlined over the last 24 hours is that the IDF destroyed Hamas as an active force within 3 months of Oct 7th. After that it proceeded to flatten all of Gaza, via collective punishment, bombarding the enclave with bombs. Israeli politicians supported rape, with one even suggesting they nuke Gaza. Another idea was to gas Hamas out of the tunnels but their allies suggested this would be bad optics. What you have said previously was that it was the Palestinians own fault for staying there and that if they wanted to live they should have left, all the while Israeli politicians called for collective punishment saying there were no innocents in Gaza. cant really get away from that no matter how many Justinians or Harry Potters you conjure up.

multiple sources claim that Israel repeatedly has broken the cease fire agreement. counter arguments to this are weak yet here we are.

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I checked - your right, chatgpt does pull from reddit. this is what i am getting, so i will concede this point: There is a formal partnership between OpenAI and Reddit, allowing API access. But having that access doesn’t necessarily mean that this individual ChatGPT response is drawing live from Reddit. Even if Reddit data was used during training, output may reflect aggregated knowledge rather than direct quotes. And under Reddit’s terms, using data to train LLMs requires explicit permission. So it’s inaccurate to assert categorically that ChatGPT pulls content from Reddit for every response.

a poor response from chatgpt so i will hold my hand up.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that because Reddit was used as part of the training of these models that they are compromised? you do know they pull data from almost everywhere right?


Someone is triggered.. leave him alone. :baby:
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What I outlined over the last 24 hours is that the IDF destroyed Hamas as an active force within 3 months of Oct 7th. After that it proceeded to flatten all of Gaza, via collective punishment, bombarding the enclave with bombs. Israeli politicians supported rape, with one even suggesting they nuke Gaza. Another idea was to gas Hamas out of the tunnels but their allies suggested this would be bad optics. What you have said previously was that it was the Palestinians own fault for staying there and that if they wanted to live they should have left, all the while Israeli politicians called for collective punishment saying there were no innocents in Gaza. cant really get away from that no matter how many Justinians or Harry Potters you conjure up.

multiple sources claim that Israel repeatedly has broken the cease fire agreement. counter arguments to this are weak yet here we are.


They stayed to act as human shields.

You said that acting as human shields and using their children as human shields not only means they aren’t innocent, it makes them terrorists. I didn’t say that, again, you did. It’s very similar to the position you just put on Israeli politicians with the opinion that there are no innocents in Gaza. Obviously I don’t agree with that, the children did not have a choice or the capacity to understand the choice if presented with it. I’m not even sure I would go as far as you did in calling their parents terrorists. They are deplorable people though, and certainly not innocent.

For reference:

no, if you willingly act as a human shield for terrorists, you are not innocent.
if you willingly use your children as human shields, you are a terrorist.
also, to expand on this, children should NEVER be at political marches etc. here in ireland i advocate that bringing children to political marches is a form of abuse / brainwashing.
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Someone is triggered.. leave him alone. :baby:


You’re a bit of an odd fella. If you have something to say then say it instead of chirping nothings from the sidelines. Very European behavior
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so your refuting what multiple sources are agreeing on and going with the one book, whose views you support/agree with ? is that it ? At a certain point you have to look at the data and say, what is the most logical fact here. well, thats what i do.


Dear friend,
It’s well known that AI systems are influenced by the information that’s most common or most visible online. The more frequently something appears, the more weight it can end up having in the model’s responses.

It’s also true that AI can’t access paywalled academic research—the kind you need a subscription to read—so its knowledge is limited to what’s publicly available.

And considering that countries like Russia and Iran operate thousands of bots that shape online content, it’s only logical to approach AI-generated answers with a healthy degree of skepticism.

This answer was written from my own words, just rewritten by AI for clearer English. So it does have its advantages after all.
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Dear friend,
It’s well known that AI systems are influenced by the information that’s most common or most visible online. The more frequently something appears, the more weight it can end up having in the model’s responses.

It’s also true that AI can’t access paywalled academic research—the kind you need a subscription to read—so its knowledge is limited to what’s publicly available.

And considering that countries like Russia and Iran operate thousands of bots that shape online content, it’s only logical to approach AI-generated answers with a healthy degree of skepticism.

This answer was written from my own words, just rewritten by AI for clearer English. So it does have its advantages after all.


yes, point made. man, i feel like my hands were caught in the cookie jar. you just killed me with kindness. with brevity now: there is very little evidence to support the notion that Hamas have been in any way effective in waging a "war" since early 2014. that means that after the IDF "Won" (and this did not take long after Oct 7th) they spent close to two years bombarding gaza and flattening it, which by all accounts is collective punishment. i dont need to read Reuters, the BBC or Al Jazeera to support this notion, but I do. You yourself have said in past as have others here - i.e. that there is nothing wrong with collective punishment, and you are a reasonable person. therefore if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and all the other animals in the zoo tell me its a duck, then its a duck. when people go around reinforcing the notion of barbarians, hamapalastinians, no food water or electricity, and worse, then I will accept these comments at face value, AFTER i have verified them, from chatgpt.

finally my argument remains: by doing this, it is not a big deal for israel at face value. the world does not really care about gaza or the west bank, but this is creating the possibility of a mistake by Israel, that would hurt Israel alot. what that mistake is i dont know, but when you treat an entire population like this, for decades, the risk of incidents like Oct 7th, will increase. and Oct 7th was a symptom, not the MISTAKE that i fear may happen. If a mistake comes along, there really wont be much to say about it, noting cause and effect. regrettably.

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