Quote (ferdia @ Nov 26 2025 01:55pm)

Just making sure we keep this wonderful topic alive. I asked ChatGPT about the meaning of the word "war" and after a bit of debate I got this:

The war between Hamas and the IDF began with the large-scale attacks by Hamas on 7 October 2023, followed by a massive Israeli military response. In the immediate aftermath, the conflict clearly resembled a two-sided war, with intense fighting, rocket attacks by Hamas, and airstrikes and ground operations by the IDF. Civilian harm in Gaza was extremely high, with thousands killed and widespread destruction of infrastructure.

Over the months following October 2023, however, the intensity of Hamas’s offensive operations against Israel dropped sharply. Rocket attacks, missile launches, and other offensive actions by Hamas and allied groups became sporadic and lower in scale. In contrast, IDF operations in Gaza, including airstrikes, artillery bombardments, and targeted raids, continued at a high and relatively sustained level. Civilian casualties and infrastructure damage in Gaza remained high throughout this period, largely independent of Gaza-origin attacks.

Based on publicly reported data, the divergence in intensity between IDF and Hamas operations became most apparent in late 2023 and early 2024. While the conflict has not formally ended and occasional exchanges continue, the sustained, high-intensity bombardment of Gaza by Israel, coupled with the reduced offensive activity by Hamas, indicates a shift away from war toward a de facto one-sided bombardment of the enclave.

In summary, while the term “war” still applies in some respects due to sporadic clashes and ongoing hostilities, the overall pattern since early 2024 has been asymmetric, with the IDF conducting the bulk of military operations and Hamas largely maintaining a defensive or non-active posture. This assessment emphasizes the gradual and asymmetric nature of the conflict rather than a sudden, discrete transition from war to one-sided bombardment.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ 26 Nov 2025 23:12)

It’s a search engine, you didn’t have a debate with it. You kept refining your query until you got the results you wanted, pulled mostly from reddit and quora. It presented you with a facsimile of debate to convince you that you weren’t just reading a mash-up of reddit posts.

Edit: my favorite part about people getting their information from “ai” is that as time goes on, more and more of it’s results are based on other “ai” results, giving you a convolution of convolutions. Hilarious that this is where you guys are getting your information. Read a book.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Nov 26 2025 10:12pm)

It’s a search engine, you didn’t have a debate with it. You kept refining your query until you got the results you wanted, pulled mostly from reddit and quora. It presented you with a facsimile of debate to convince you that you weren’t just reading a mash-up of reddit posts.

Edit: my favorite part about people getting their information from “ai” is that as time goes on, more and more of it’s results are based on other “ai” results, giving you a convolution of convolutions. Hilarious that this is where you guys are getting your information. Read a book.

Quote (ferdia @ 27 Nov 2025 18:23)

If your argument is that reading one book is superior to checking multiple sources, that’s not a flex, that is just limiting your own scope. If you want me to provide sources to further discredit you, just let me know, cheers.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 27 2025 05:23am)

If your argument is that reading one book is superior to checking multiple sources, that’s not a flex, that is just limiting your own scope. If you want me to provide sources to further discredit you, just let me know, cheers.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 27 2025 05:57am)

I read a lot of books.
If you reference an author he will probably say the author is crngy and Anti semitic even if said author is a Jew.

Long story short, whether you use ai or you use authors that have experience, seen, did research and they are well known and qualified, some people will still have shit to nitpick.

Don't argue or debate with people like this. Waste your time. Especially if they think they are smarter than everyone.

Smile and move on.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Nov 27 2025 06:19pm)

Well obviously that’s not my argument on account of that’s ridiculous. But I do think you could get more insight from a Harry Potter book than you’re getting from that ai that’s just quoting people on reddit.



This is based on some unfounded assumptions about me. I’ve never called anything cringy in my life, and usually the only people I call anti-semitic are my friends.

The things you guys believe are stupid, and your major source of information is reddit. That’s bad enough. Whether or not you’re hateful though is conjecture I feel no need to engage in.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 27 2025 01:31pm)

uhh chatgpt does not have the ability to pull from reddit btw. neither does deepseek btw. why do you keep referencing reddit with me and hamster? i dont even use/browse or do anything with reddit, at all.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 27 2025 01:31pm)

Also, there are no real insights to be gained from the Harry Potter series. It’s a fully made-up world with its own culture and rules—very similar to The Wheel of Time. In both, power structures, morality, and social dynamics are entirely self-contained. Evil teachers just are evil, and power dynamics are scripted—you aren’t challenged to wrestle with reality or the kinds of dynamics we see between men and women in the real world. Nothing in either series translates meaningfully to the Israeli conflict; they’re entertainment, not guides.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Nov 27 2025 06:38pm)

You’re wrong or lying. Openai and Reddit have a formal agreement allowing “ai” access to Reddit’s API. There are claims that they are scaling back reliance on reddit, but it’s been their number one source up to now.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 27 2025 01:43pm)

I checked - your right, chatgpt does pull from reddit. this is what i am getting, so i will concede this point: There is a formal partnership between OpenAI and Reddit, allowing API access. But having that access doesn’t necessarily mean that this individual ChatGPT response is drawing live from Reddit. Even if Reddit data was used during training, output may reflect aggregated knowledge rather than direct quotes. And under Reddit’s terms, using data to train LLMs requires explicit permission. So it’s inaccurate to assert categorically that ChatGPT pulls content from Reddit for every response.

a poor response from chatgpt so i will hold my hand up.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that because Reddit was used as part of the training of these models that they are compromised? you do know they pull data from almost everywhere right?