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Nov 21 2025 12:50pm
double homicide.

Is that how they say it in court ? :o


if you kill 2 people they typically say "2 counts of _____", and the blank differs by state or federal. some states call it murder, some homicide, etc. Im not a legal expert, but i believe some states do charge you additionally for killing a pregnant woman, some i believe dont. in either case it would affect the sentence length and guidelines, most likely.
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Yes. But again, a parasite is a foreign organism, not a product of sexual reproduction made from the mother’s genetic code.

You’re just wrong and you could easily prove it to yourself if you cared about the truth.


cancer cells are made from the mother's genetic code
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cancer cells are made from the mother's genetic code


Cancer is not a parasite either.
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Cancer is not a parasite either.


replace parasite with parasitic
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replace parasite with parasitic


Still incorrect.
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Personally, I view abortion as that which terminates pregnancy but that it doesn't necessarily mean that it terminates the life of the fetus/child. For this reason, I don't agree with the attempted murder charge but do find sense in the neglect charge.


I don't really understand your explanation here. Anyway you can expand on that rhetoric?
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Is this thread going to get to 200 pages?
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Never, if the child hasn’t been born it’s not a person
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I don't really understand your explanation here. Anyway you can expand on that rhetoric?


Abortion is an option for those who wish to terminate pregnancy, and while it does result in the end of development/life of the fetus in a majority of cases, there are also rare instances like those in the OP where it terminates pregnancy (the state of being pregnant) but the fetus/child remains alive. My personal viewpoint is that people retain the right to bodily autonomy under virtually all circumstances, including pregnancy, and so abortion isn't murder to me. Once that bodily autonomy has been achieved, and the pregnancy has been terminated, I do think it makes sense that people have a responsibility to not neglect the life that now exists independent of their body in the rare instances like something in the OP happens.

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Abortion is an option for those who wish to terminate pregnancy, and while it does result in the end of development/life of the fetus in a majority of cases, there are also rare instances like those in the OP where it terminates pregnancy (the state of being pregnant) but the fetus/child remains alive. My personal viewpoint is that people retain the right to bodily autonomy under virtually all circumstances, including pregnancy, and so abortion isn't murder to me. Once that bodily autonomy has been achieved, and the pregnancy has been terminated, I do think it makes sense that people have a responsibility to not neglect the life that now exists independent of their body in the rare instances like something in the OP happens.


I see, I can't help but disagree here. I'm all for something like the day after pill, but if you become pregnant while you had windows of opportunity to not become so, as well as knowledge as tracking your cycles or the man wearing condoms, etc, that both entities who created the child should bear the responsibility of the life they brought into the world.

The way I see it, you care more about those who are in the power of the relationship of parent and child.
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