you deflected away from my statements. maybe read what i wrote, if you dont agree, explain why, briefly.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 19 2025 12:11pm

My question was specific, yours is general and phrased to mislead.

The thing you are calling collective punishment does not appear to be that to me, so answering your question would confound the issue since you are being general and we disagree on the specifics of the matter at hand.

Be specific and I will answer your questions.

HOW is denying food, electricity and water to an entire population NOT collective punishment!? what mental gymnastic's are you doing here? If you are saying i am being general, then yes, thats exactly what i am being - i am asking a simple question which has a simple yes or no answer.

Israel is forcing collective punishment on the entire population of Gaza. Yes or No ?

wait, ill robot you. try these instead:

1. International humanitarian law defines collective punishment as punitive measures imposed on a civilian population for actions they did not individually commit. Based on this definition, do you think Israel’s actions in Gaza qualify as collective punishment? Please answer yes or no.

2. Given the documented restrictions on food, water, fuel, electricity, and medicine imposed on the civilian population of Gaza, do you consider these measures to constitute collective punishment under international law? Yes or no?

3. I am not asking whether Israel is justified—I’m asking whether the actions taken fit the definition of collective punishment. Under that definition, is the answer yes or no?

try to answer any 1 of those i guess?

again, there are 3 questions here so feel free to ask me 30 in advance. list them to save time, i wont take long in responding. i have no problem being labeled based on my answers.


This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 19 2025 12:19pm

Those people were given the option of leaving the warzone, of not acting as human shields for terrorists.

The city was under siege. Maybe you could google how siege works if you’re still confused, it’s worked this way for thousands of years. Except, again, Israel encouraged innocents to leave. They denied themselves those things by refusing to leave.

1. No, for reasons explained in my above post. Their misfortunes came from staying in a place they were warned to leave. Warzones exist, unfortunately, and Hamas chose Gaza as their fortress, Israel did not choose the location for the war.

2. Again no for the same reason.

3. No.

Here’s a question for you.

Are you still innocent if you willingly act as a human shield for terrorists?

What if you willingly use your children as human shields for terrorists?

negative, i did not.

i debunked your wild claims lmao, thats not a deflection big dawg.

the israel propping up hamas wasn't for the intention of a war with their own people lmao.
it was to have a puppet regime to help run and maintain gaza.

but hey, terrorists are going to terrorize, once hamas was inbedded with hezbollah, and you know.. to rid the world of infidels which is in their own quran, and preached heavily in middle east countries things went upside down.
also, to even for a fraction of a second, think every single government in this world isn't corrupt in some nature is naive, and unrealistic. Especially when you're most likely from north america where we have some of the worst corrupt governments regardless of left or right wing.


and the fact you think ISRAEL was the ones denying food and water to gaza (which is insane to even consider a country feeding another countries civilians as a necessity in war, and has never happened historical to that magnitude as well)

only about 2000 videos on the internet to show that HAMAS was stealing aid, selling it to fund their war,
or the UN refusing to pick up the food deliveries (probably because hamas was hijacking the trucks).

the food was in GAZA. not israel, GAZA. It is so scary adults have zero logical processing ability anymore. You jump to one side, don't research the other sides point of view, and you live in your echo chamber, with the same confirmation bias videos on social media, and the same bias media.

like these are FACTS, irrefutable factual information available TO YOU RIGHT NOW, without having to get off your couch you can look this up with your phone (thanks to israel for inventing our phone and pc chips btw)

and you don't do it. Instead you prefer to believe you are right, without trying to disprove your own beliefs. I can't wrap my head around that mentality. Anytime I'm trying to decipher which side is right (any polarizing issue) the first thing i do is try and fight from either side, so i can have a birdseye objective viewpoint.

the fact adults don't do that in 2025, the era of misinformation and propaganda, and corruption is so beyond me.

Your statements are refuted by official Israeli government statements. You are projecting your views.

no, if you willingly act as a human shield for terrorists, you are not innocent.
if you willingly use your children as human shields, you are a terrorist.
also, to expand on this, children should NEVER be at political marches etc. here in ireland i advocate that bringing children to political marches is a form of abuse / brainwashing.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 19 2025 12:52pm

so false lmao, but you're probably referring to ex military and government officials who are the far left in Israel, no different than here the left talking shit about trump etc
but you probably saw a cnn article or a leftist media israel headline and took it as truth, as per most individuals now adays


you just have way too much anti-semitism in you, i afraid it might be too late.

if israel are so bad, why would they release in farsi, their technology and procedures to drastically increase water retention and supply to Iran, for free btw.

explain to me like im 5, how you can spin that into them being evil still.

you just hate jews, and its okay, you're allowed to.
but stop meshing you're viewpoint and hate together.