+3 Lighting skills >> +2 Lighting skills

Pvp has more parameters than just damage.
Knockback is extremely valuable in more setups than focusing just pure damage.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69488398
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=59844817
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96520343&f=148

This post was edited by tshockterrarian on Nov 19 2025 05:00am

post after post

page after page

talk after talk

i still dont see the pvp you talk about and still got no an link to it,
so i can check that java players with gloves on the pic.

friend.

I think i've provided you with sufficient evidence to support my claims of your ignorance.
Maybe if you posted anything helpful at all, i would change my mind.



This post was edited by tshockterrarian on Nov 19 2025 05:05am

So you cant show me the tournament, ladder, league whatever,
where are javas pvp dueling with gloves on the pic,

Doesnt exist

But you will still present them as something that players must have.

Whats more ignorance friend?

Its fake as all that other fake items topics that noone ever uses @ 2025 soon 2026.



Maybe its time to open your eyes,
to get the Facts,
and to show something insteqd talk about and talk talk theory blabla..

Show it.


This post was edited by Hamm on Nov 19 2025 05:09am

I could find no topics that displays their gear in the legit dueling section, but that doesnt make it a valid argument on your part.
What i have provided you is actual PVP topics back from 2011 all the way to 202x which all backs up my argument.

Meanwhile you absolutely refuse to give me anything useful to change my mind.
You're expecting me to provide data, and i have. but you add absolutely nothing to this discussion.

All i see is your ego hurt.

This post was edited by tshockterrarian on Nov 19 2025 05:16am

so you confirm you are ignorant not me?

dosent exist anything and anyone pvp this gloves.
dosent exist any tour anyone play.

but everyone must have such gloves.

yes.

we are clear now,
im sure i helped you in this p/c.

Bad Java Gloves - Topic - d2jsp https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107395465&f=54&p=680226629

This post was edited by Hamm on Nov 19 2025 05:19am

No, what i'm saying is that people dont usually post their gear in tournament topics.
which means i cannot link gear from that section. are you serious right now?

that's like saying bugbelts doesnt exist because there is no pictures of them in that section.
it's a baseless argument. ignorance.

you didnt link me single tournament

thats what i asked for

i see you are really lost in this realm and game friend

and its exactly as i posted,

dreaming, theoryspaming and wishing about useless pixel.

what about open your eyes, get facts and reality before you say someones ignorance or whatever. even the one helping you...

did you ever try to lookarround to not live in fake bubble world?


This post was edited by Hamm on Nov 19 2025 05:26am

How is me linking a tournament even useful to this discussion?
You're asking me to provide data but you are providing nothing yourself.

It has been established that you are objectively wrong.
This 2021 user has posted evidence, links, pictures, everything, i've actually tried my best to be constructive to you.

Until you can post me some data that disproves me, you simply lost this argument.
Nobody here is agreeing with you, you're just repeating yourself, asking me to do all the work.

This topic can be closed now because you're absolutely delusional.
When you have anything useful to show me, then feel free to PM me. or block me in shame. your choice.

This post was edited by tshockterrarian on Nov 19 2025 05:31am