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Nov 15 2025 08:50pm
here's a link to my other post which i thought here might be more appropriate

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107380278&f=188

but longstory short im looking to buy a pc to replace my old laptop that is getting outdated

i want to play runescape on runelite and newer games with midrange graphics and will need a monitor (i do not play online first person shooter so very low latency is not needed)

something discreet, small atx motherboard, simple, quiet, no rgb..

id like to put max 2000$ canadian dollars for the computer and 1000 max for the monitor..

any help helps! :hug:
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gWh3h7

replace the cooler with thermalright peerless assassin 120 SE and the Samsung SSD with Kingston NV3 1 TB and you will be fine

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gWh3h7

replace the cooler with thermalright peerless assassin 120 SE and the Samsung SSD with Kingston NV3 1 TB and you will be fine


what do you think of steamOs and should i install that instead of windows on a new computer? or maybe even my current laptop? do you know if it runs games well?

i have a Asus ROG Zephyrus s15 gx502lws
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what do you think of steamOs and should i install that instead of windows on a new computer? or maybe even my current laptop? do you know if it runs games well?

i have a Asus ROG Zephyrus s15 gx502lws


i think you shall not installing steamos

windows or linux
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Nov 17 2025 06:06am
i think you shall not installing steamos

windows or linux

SteamOS is Linux, it's based on the Arch Linux distribution
You could try SteamOS, they will even have way better desktop support from now (as until now Steam mostly targeted handhelds instead of desktops)

i want to play runescape on runelite and newer games with midrange graphics and will need a monitor (i do not play online first person shooter so very low latency is not needed)

something discreet, small atx motherboard, simple, quiet, no rgb..

and i would also recommend building your own custom machine rather than waiting for the steam cube to drop
(tho the cube would prob be around the $500-$750 price range and would fit your needs of something compact and small as a desktop, if not needing to run resources intensive tasks)
and maybe after getting comfortable with the SteamOS ecosystem, would suggest to just try out Arch Linux and with your new knowledges regarding Linux, to make it fit your needs with the same or similar tools that you would have used on SteamOS

id like to put max 2000$ canadian dollars for the computer and 1000 max for the monitor..

i would personally go for the 128GB RAM version of the frame.work desktop
(CAD $2,859):
https://frame.work/ca/en/products/desktop-diy-amd-aimax300/configuration/new
as it would be an upgrade in my case, since AM4 socket doesnt go higher than 64GB RAM
most gamers dont have the need for a GPU but those integrated graphics on CPUs are very powerful nowadays on those newer chips
and even on AM4 socket without a GPU am still able to play +10x instances of D2R without too much hassle
as documented a bit over there:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=106605329&f=148

however, for your case
wouldnt necessarily recommend the framework desktop (nor the 64GB RAM version of it (non-upgradable))
as for your needs, you could build something for cheaper that would still do the job
laptops are fine since they can still have similar chips without needing a GPU
but desktops do have proper cooling for more regular use (and laptops break more easily, less modular, more annoying with dust maintenance)
you could max out an AM4 build with like 5700G chip (or similar with integrated graphics) and 64GB RAM (that is also used as VRAM) for way less than CAD $2000
or you could do similar on AM5 socket, with the possibility to upgrade to 128GB RAM later on (as it would be modular), just by adding RAM sticks later than having to completely replace them

could i split my current ssd in 2 partition (i use windows 10) and install and run one of those os on the other partition to see if it works well?

you could (it's called dualbooting)
but from experience it's way less of a headache to just have a separate ssd for that
either from having both plugged in and doing the dualboot
or swapping one for the other when wanting to boot one or another
been doing the no-case and even on the M.2 nvme, no screws so swapping takes as long as a very quick reboot anyways
also that way dont have to have the headache to troubleshoot a broken GRUB after a windows update... (GRUB is the first thing that boots for Linux and is what's used to manage dualbooting)
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Nov 17 2025 11:38am
i think you shall not installing steamos

windows or linux


Is there a reason why you do not reccomend steamos?

SteamOS is Linux, it's based on the Arch Linux distribution
You could try SteamOS, they will even have way better desktop support from now (as until now Steam mostly targeted handhelds instead of desktops)


and i would also recommend building your own custom machine rather than waiting for the steam cube to drop
(tho the cube would prob be around the $500-$750 price range and would fit your needs of something compact and small as a desktop, if not needing to run resources intensive tasks)
and maybe after getting comfortable with the SteamOS ecosystem, would suggest to just try out Arch Linux and with your new knowledges regarding Linux, to make it fit your needs with the same or similar tools that you would have used on SteamOS


i would personally go for the 128GB RAM version of the frame.work desktop
(CAD $2,859):
https://frame.work/ca/en/products/desktop-diy-amd-aimax300/configuration/new
as it would be an upgrade in my case, since AM4 socket doesnt go higher than 64GB RAM
most gamers dont have the need for a GPU but those integrated graphics on CPUs are very powerful nowadays on those newer chips
and even on AM4 socket without a GPU am still able to play +10x instances of D2R without too much hassle
as documented a bit over there:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=106605329&f=148

however, for your case
wouldnt necessarily recommend the framework desktop (nor the 64GB RAM version of it (non-upgradable))
as for your needs, you could build something for cheaper that would still do the job
laptops are fine since they can still have similar chips without needing a GPU
but desktops do have proper cooling for more regular use (and laptops break more easily, less modular, more annoying with dust maintenance)
you could max out an AM4 build with like 5700G chip (or similar with integrated graphics) and 64GB RAM (that is also used as VRAM) for way less than CAD $2000
or you could do similar on AM5 socket, with the possibility to upgrade to 128GB RAM later on (as it would be modular), just by adding RAM sticks later than having to completely replace them


Ill check those builds but yea i do not multi task much more than watch a movie while playing runescape on runelite
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Nov 17 2025 12:34pm
Is there a reason why you do not reccomend steamos?



Ill check those builds but yea i do not multi task much more than watch a movie while playing runescape on runelite


made my comment based on info i get from youtube tech channels , they said its mostly for hand held devices etc , i personally dont have experience with it so you should better test it yourself or look for more info in youtube or other sources as well

maybe its improved so you can test it out
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Nov 22 2025 10:50am
SteamOS is Linux, it's based on the Arch Linux distribution
You could try SteamOS, they will even have way better desktop support from now (as until now Steam mostly targeted handhelds instead of desktops)


and i would also recommend building your own custom machine rather than waiting for the steam cube to drop
(tho the cube would prob be around the $500-$750 price range and would fit your needs of something compact and small as a desktop, if not needing to run resources intensive tasks)
and maybe after getting comfortable with the SteamOS ecosystem, would suggest to just try out Arch Linux and with your new knowledges regarding Linux, to make it fit your needs with the same or similar tools that you would have used on SteamOS


i would personally go for the 128GB RAM version of the frame.work desktop
(CAD $2,859):
https://frame.work/ca/en/products/desktop-diy-amd-aimax300/configuration/new
as it would be an upgrade in my case, since AM4 socket doesnt go higher than 64GB RAM
most gamers dont have the need for a GPU but those integrated graphics on CPUs are very powerful nowadays on those newer chips
and even on AM4 socket without a GPU am still able to play +10x instances of D2R without too much hassle
as documented a bit over there:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=106605329&f=148

however, for your case
wouldnt necessarily recommend the framework desktop (nor the 64GB RAM version of it (non-upgradable))
as for your needs, you could build something for cheaper that would still do the job
laptops are fine since they can still have similar chips without needing a GPU
but desktops do have proper cooling for more regular use (and laptops break more easily, less modular, more annoying with dust maintenance)
you could max out an AM4 build with like 5700G chip (or similar with integrated graphics) and 64GB RAM (that is also used as VRAM) for way less than CAD $2000
or you could do similar on AM5 socket, with the possibility to upgrade to 128GB RAM later on (as it would be modular), just by adding RAM sticks later than having to completely replace them


you could (it's called dualbooting)
but from experience it's way less of a headache to just have a separate ssd for that
either from having both plugged in and doing the dualboot
or swapping one for the other when wanting to boot one or another
been doing the no-case and even on the M.2 nvme, no screws so swapping takes as long as a very quick reboot anyways
also that way dont have to have the headache to troubleshoot a broken GRUB after a windows update... (GRUB is the first thing that boots for Linux and is what's used to manage dualbooting)


https://newegg.io/2a5e7bc

would that somehow make sense? is it all compatible? is there anything missing? i could probably replace the nvidia card https://www.newegg.ca/asus-prime-rtx5070-o12g-geforce-rtx-5070-12gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814126760?Item=N82E16814126760
for a radeon https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-challenger-rx9060xt-cl-16go-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814930140?Item=N82E16814930140

i am wondering how i could try to lower the price a bit, i was wondering if the adaptive sync is really worth matching the gpus and monitors with the cpus im not sure how that works

https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-gs27qa-sa-27-qhd-180-hz-super-speed-ips-black/p/N82E16824012083?item=N82E16824012083 would be better, its cheaper but seems to have worse reviews...

i feel like the psu might be overkill too..not sure.. its just cheaper than the 750w one

This post was edited by Kjhghjk42 on Nov 22 2025 11:07am
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point was that u shouldnt need a GPU at all
for CPU, XT dont have integrated graphics, the G and GE ones do tho, for example:
https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-7-5000-g-series-ryzen-7-5700g-cezanne-socket-am4-processors-desktops/p/274-000M-001T6

paying $264 for windows is next level stockholm syndrome lol
was always able to download win 10 for free directly from microsoft official website...
then just removing GPU and the windows thing u already save up over $1k already
which then could be for more RAM
or even a titanium PSU instead of a gold one like:
https://www.newegg.ca/be-quiet-atx-3-0-compatible-850-w-80-plus-titanium-certified-power-supplies-black/p/1HU-004H-000R9?item=1HU-004H-000R9
but is like really if min/maxing electricity consumption at this point and wouldnt really worry about it, gold is fine could do lower wattage even, since wouldnt be using a dedicated GPU anyways

but i guess, honestly, running the math would prob be better of with something like this :
https://store.minisforum.com/en-ca/products/minisforum-um790-pro
with ram something like that:
https://www.newegg.ca/kingston-technology-corp-fury-impact-32gb-ddr5-5600-cas-latency-cl40-memory/p/0RM-001W-00788?item=9SIA7BBKNF4033
drives could be 1 small nvme for OS and 1 bigger nvme for storage/games
and the screen from newegg still

idk, too many possible configurations possible and tired rn lol
but pretty much, i just wouldnt do a config with a GPU like at all
at the end of the day, you do you tho, you got the things matching in your config, like it works, wouldnt be what i would go for but it works so gratz on not mismatching things on like socket, ram and so on
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Nov 23 2025 09:52pm
point was that u shouldnt need a GPU at all
for CPU, XT dont have integrated graphics, the G and GE ones do tho, for example:
https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-7-5000-g-series-ryzen-7-5700g-cezanne-socket-am4-processors-desktops/p/274-000M-001T6

paying $264 for windows is next level stockholm syndrome lol
was always able to download win 10 for free directly from microsoft official website...
then just removing GPU and the windows thing u already save up over $1k already
which then could be for more RAM
or even a titanium PSU instead of a gold one like:
https://www.newegg.ca/be-quiet-atx-3-0-compatible-850-w-80-plus-titanium-certified-power-supplies-black/p/1HU-004H-000R9?item=1HU-004H-000R9
but is like really if min/maxing electricity consumption at this point and wouldnt really worry about it, gold is fine could do lower wattage even, since wouldnt be using a dedicated GPU anyways

but i guess, honestly, running the math would prob be better of with something like this :
https://store.minisforum.com/en-ca/products/minisforum-um790-pro
with ram something like that:
https://www.newegg.ca/kingston-technology-corp-fury-impact-32gb-ddr5-5600-cas-latency-cl40-memory/p/0RM-001W-00788?item=9SIA7BBKNF4033
drives could be 1 small nvme for OS and 1 bigger nvme for storage/games
and the screen from newegg still

idk, too many possible configurations possible and tired rn lol
but pretty much, i just wouldnt do a config with a GPU like at all
at the end of the day, you do you tho, you got the things matching in your config, like it works, wouldnt be what i would go for but it works so gratz on not mismatching things on like socket, ram and so on


wow that little minisforum looks pretty dope!! gonna check that out see how it runs games and stuff but man thats clean as f**

This post was edited by Kjhghjk42 on Nov 23 2025 09:52pm
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