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Nov 12 2025 07:55am
that's one hell of a way to spin shooting your own civilians then running away to russia when things get too hot as the domestic population rises against you

if autocratic shitholes waging imperialist wars suddenly are afraid of doing business with the eu, i don't think it'll be a great loss. though you should question your values if you find yourself with allies like russia, iran and north korea


To be fair, someone opened fire before the police and shot both protesters and police, which means that the purpose was to create a conflict that the police had no chance of winning… that resulted in the overthrow of the government.

You can believe that Yanukovych or Putin are just so unbelievably stupid that they ordered that, if that’s what you’d like to believe. Seems unlikely to me, especially when you have a recording of American officials discussing who they’re going to replace Yanukovych with.

Fer reference, the transcript of that recording: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

It’s bizarre to me that the same people who attack the US for it’s use of economic hitmen and jackals in Latin America are totally unwilling to entertain the idea that they used the same tactics in Ukraine.
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Nov 12 2025 11:11am
To be fair, someone opened fire before the police and shot both protesters and police, which means that the purpose was to create a conflict that the police had no chance of winning… that resulted in the overthrow of the government.

You can believe that Yanukovych or Putin are just so unbelievably stupid that they ordered that, if that’s what you’d like to believe. Seems unlikely to me, especially when you have a recording of American officials discussing who they’re going to replace Yanukovych with.

Fer reference, the transcript of that recording: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

It’s bizarre to me that the same people who attack the US for it’s use of economic hitmen and jackals in Latin America are totally unwilling to entertain the idea that they used the same tactics in Ukraine.


For decades during the cold war we funded and sponsored color revolutions in Asia, SA, Africa, pretty much wherever. But today the collective media has totally brainwashed large swaths of the population where they actually believe that western aligned leaders replacing non-aligned or China/Russia aligned are totally organic grass roots events that totally by chance are breaking pro-west.

Like lol. This time is different !1!1!!

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Nov 12 2025 02:48pm
Russia fails again and again in Pokrovsk.





Can't wait to hear the Putin propaganda peoples spin...

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Nov 12 2025 05:38pm
Just for comparison.

When usa has the Marines enter a town.



When the Russian attempt to invade.....lol.
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Nov 13 2025 04:33am
Putin is just playing with them for like 4 years now :ph34r:
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Nov 13 2025 06:00am
This is the only stat you need to read:



that's a staggeringly low number of people for what amounted to a violent revolution. im sure israel has killed 3x that number with a single bomb in gaza at some point in the war.

as to his flight, what's his alterative? wait to get hung in the street or worse Gadhafi'd? he abdicated the govt to the mob, all that follows that for him if he stays is death.


The middle east is an entirely different category of mess

Belarus is more comparable and had a similar relationship with russia but they were willing to crush dissent during the last uprising. Maybe this guy isn't as bad as lukashenko but if he had the support you say he did then why didn't the country fracture and he could've gone to a region of ukraine where he was well supported? By comparison Zelenksy was offered a ride out by the west when the russian invasion started but he decided to stay.

In any event ill grant he isn't as half bad as I thought he was initially

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Nov 13 2025 06:07am
To be fair, someone opened fire before the police and shot both protesters and police, which means that the purpose was to create a conflict that the police had no chance of winning… that resulted in the overthrow of the government.

You can believe that Yanukovych or Putin are just so unbelievably stupid that they ordered that, if that’s what you’d like to believe. Seems unlikely to me, especially when you have a recording of American officials discussing who they’re going to replace Yanukovych with.

Fer reference, the transcript of that recording: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

It’s bizarre to me that the same people who attack the US for it’s use of economic hitmen and jackals in Latin America are totally unwilling to entertain the idea that they used the same tactics in Ukraine.


Ive read a similar story about us involvement in ukraine where they clearly expressed preferences for the new government in question and that they also financially backed dissent. I couldn't find anything on protestors killing the police first but that would legitimize the response and if the us/cia had a direct hand in instigating that incident I wouldn't be surprised.

All this rhetoric denies the agency of Ukrainians in the matter. Do you think their revolution was purely driven by western Imperialism?
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Nov 13 2025 06:15am
Putin is just playing with them for like 4 years now :ph34r:



Lol. So true.

Playing with them, while losing majority of his newer tanks and over a million + troops. Sound like quite the fun play time for the Russians invading on mopeds.





Lol

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Nov 13 2025 07:13am
The middle east is an entirely different category of mess

Belarus is more comparable and had a similar relationship with russia but they were willing to crush dissent during the last uprising. Maybe this guy isn't as bad as lukashenko but if he had the support you say he did then why didn't the country fracture and he could've gone to a region of ukraine where he was well supported?By comparison Zelenksy was offered a ride out by the west when the russian invasion started but he decided to stay.

In any event ill grant he isn't as half bad as I thought he was initially


Shortly after the revolution those places were bombed, by the new Ukrainian govt. also when people want you dead you want to be FAR away. its really more of an urban rural type situation tho. the capital was against him, and big cities, and that's where the population lives. the country folk weren't going to rise up and topple the govt, and that's most of the country by land mass size. like imagine if Chicago, New York, and LA were against the president and also DC. and DC rose up violently. is the president going to hide in Kansas? nah. he'll run as far away from the USA as possible or he'll die. at that point you need the protection of another state's intel service, assassins are coming.

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