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Nov 7 2025 12:16pm
Hey Guys...

Im playing ladder hc and currently am on max block with homunculus.

Got my setup like this

Eni
Maras
Harle
Arach
DW
Dwarft + 10fcr ring in other slot
Infernos

Im running no sunder and im up to 10k nova...

Life with bo is around 1.8k

Do you guys have a better option ?
(its like the maxroll hc varfiant mostly)

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Nov 7 2025 12:33pm
Well didn't read all the advices but there is a gg trick for poison necro

Use thorn merc with insight and fire golem

Act boss will always aim for the fire golem due to the holy fire making it the primary target for boss
Since it's a Summons boss are doing +400% dmg on them
With thorns + amplify damage all boss will suicide themselves on the golem in about 4-5 hits

Could also go infinity + fire golem but in that case you loose mana regen
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Nov 7 2025 12:35pm
Well didn't read all the advices but there is a gg trick for poison necro

Use thorn merc with insight and fire golem

Act boss will always aim for the fire golem due to the holy fire making it the primary target for boss
Since it's a Summons boss are doing +400% dmg on them
With thorns + amplify damage all boss will suicide themselves on the golem in about 4-5 hits

Could also go infinity + fire golem but in that case you loose mana regen


Yea I think that is the idea given by Mrlamasc the best d2 player
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Yea I think that is the idea given by Mrlamasc the best d2 player


Lol i truly don't remember from where I had the idea
Prob from his video yeah
But i've honestly been imrpessed on how well that actually works

Though i haven't looked at his videos for a while, looter & zarfen are by far better streamers
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Nov 7 2025 01:22pm
There is another video by a nec player which depics how psn inflicts his damage...
And if the minions dont hit a boss, the psn damge applys different :)

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Nov 7 2025 01:27pm
Lol i truly don't remember from where I had the idea
Prob from his video yeah
But i've honestly been imrpessed on how well that actually works

Though i haven't looked at his videos for a while, looter & zarfen are by far better streamers


mrllama isn't very strong on the creative side haha
He certainly loves the game and reads a lot about it online, but the ideas he promotes come from thinkers, not from d2 influencers :p

I explained this phenomenon on post #12 here
I'm not gonna claim that I'm the creator of this build, been promoting it for years but someone certainly had the idea before me.

I was a bit off about the 50k dps tho, I did the full calc and it's 55k dps against p8 TZ 96 diablo
Not bad considering that you only deal 11k psn nova dps
He kills diablo in ~7 seconds alone
If I support him with psn nova and merc it takes ~6 seconds
If I used the sub-optimal infinity merc + IG it takes ~16-22 seconds (varies based on luck factor for CB dmg)

The faster boss kill time is only a very small part of why thorn insight merc + fire golem is so much better than anything else.
For general density destroying I get more than 20% better xp/min when I stop wasting time with CE
CE's dmg is so low on p8, you lose so much total dps instead of just flying around and applying your psn nova to way more mobs than just waiting there for a kill form your merc to then cast amp and then cast CE a few times.
The difference in playstyle is not even close in terms of clear speed.

I even still see people suggesting to use fire/phys sunder, to try to make CE a bit more relevant.
Not only you get 2 or even 3 -70 res malus, making this squishy build even more fragile, but you also lose PnB skillers, slowing your clear speed even further.
And like I explained, Fire Golem's priority aggro is help the build a lot defense-wise.

Seeing all these posts about infinity, IG and CE explains why all those people also say that necros suck on p8
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At some point when i replied to Void just above i was hesitating to know if i've used this version of the psn necro from you or llama

Since i've done it more than 2 years ago and never played necro again cause it's really not my fav playstyle lol

But yeah i try to promote this build everytime cause it's so much better than infy but most people are crying for the CE fire damage so i strop debating with most

This post was edited by Fonzy69 on Nov 7 2025 02:01pm
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mrllama isn't very strong on the creative side haha
He certainly loves the game and reads a lot about it online, but the ideas he promotes come from thinkers, not from d2 influencers :p

I explained this phenomenon on post #12 here
I'm not gonna claim that I'm the creator of this build, been promoting it for years but someone certainly had the idea before me.

I was a bit off about the 50k dps tho, I did the full calc and it's 55k dps against p8 TZ 96 diablo
Not bad considering that you only deal 11k psn nova dps
He kills diablo in ~7 seconds alone
If I support him with psn nova and merc it takes ~6 seconds
If I used the sub-optimal infinity merc + IG it takes ~16-22 seconds (varies based on luck factor for CB dmg)

The faster boss kill time is only a very small part of why thorn insight merc + fire golem is so much better than anything else.
For general density destroying I get more than 20% better xp/min when I stop wasting time with CE
CE's dmg is so low on p8, you lose so much total dps instead of just flying around and applying your psn nova to way more mobs than just waiting there for a kill form your merc to then cast amp and then cast CE a few times.
The difference in playstyle is not even close in terms of clear speed.

I even still see people suggesting to use fire/phys sunder, to try to make CE a bit more relevant.
Not only you get 2 or even 3 -70 res malus, making this squishy build even more fragile, but you also lose PnB skillers, slowing your clear speed even further.
And like I explained, Fire Golem's priority aggro is help the build a lot defense-wise.

Seeing all these posts about infinity, IG and CE explains why all those people also say that necros suck on p8


If golem gets aggro because aura pulse, does the same apply for a merc with dream helm or hoj/doom weapon?
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Jan 15 2026 10:12am
If golem gets aggro because aura pulse, does the same apply for a merc with dream helm or hoj/doom weapon?


Nope
Pets have higher priority aggro than player/merc
They redirect the aggro on them upon dealing dmg, unless not in range.
For example, when the fire golem’s HF pulse, all ranged/casters will target him next, but melee mobs that are in range to attack you but not him won’t just switch target. Also, mobs don’t interrupt their current action to switch target.

So it’s nothing magical
It helps a bit fixing your survivability as a squishy psn nec.
It’s great to force bosses to take huge dmg from thorn.
But in the end, since a psn nec suck at killing bosses, and since doing any dmg to mobs stops psn dmg for 8 frames online (1 frame offline), I wouldn’t even recommend using fire golem’s anymore.

Ideal psn nec:
No other dmg than psn nova (so no summons, no CE, no holy freeze merc)
Holy freeze merc is reducing your dps by 8/50th
Don’t kill bosses
Farm a1 to a3 TZ where 1 psn nova can kill all affected targets over its increased duration from psn pen.
Keep moving, don’t wait for mobs to die

Psn nova is horrible at CS/baal runs
But it shines at 1-hit killing whole screens of squishier mobs on p8, in areas where you don’t have to wait for a seal boss or a baal wave to be dead so you can progress
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Jan 15 2026 02:36pm
I did 99 HC poison necro this ladder my setup was:

Shako + rbf
2 10 LR Amu
3 trang gloves / belt / shield + rbf / max block
2* bk ring
3 ress fhr boots
Mp enigma
D web + rbf

cta + sigon

Merc :D
A3 for static field - spirit sword/lawbringer for CS tz runs Eth Viper Eth spirit monarch in my opinion best for poison necro all screen 50% less hp so nova kills faster.
Iron golem insight

Skillers Life / fcr

I use sumons + max lvl corpse exp. Lower resist curse
I dont use skeletons or bone armors.

This post was edited by Lcx83 on Jan 15 2026 02:48pm
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