I'm saying the only reason I bothered listing any descriptor of her at all was to avoid using a pronoun to refer to an ambiguous subject of a story, which makes a post harder to read. If I phrased it as "she didn't just leak the video..." after a sentence talking about 5 reservists, when reservists could also be female (they weren't, but I hadn't specified), it clouds the sentence structure instead of making clear who the subject is. I don't need to list someone's full title, just enough to make it clear who's being talked about, 'the female lawyer' is enough in the context. Like if I said "The orange turd" we'd know we're talking about Trump with any further 'he' pronouns. I'm not a hemingway purist who needs every sentence written as laconic as possible and with the lexicon of a third grader, its enough when farting walls of text onto pard to make them a bit readable

ok ok point made, i do like my walls of text!

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 3 2025 01:33pm

context

"A right to rape protest broke out"
Disgusting

This is nonsense. After nine soldiers were accused of raping and abusing a Palestinian detainee, ultra-right protesters stormed two military facilities and some chanted ‘everything is legitimate’ about a suspected Hamas militant. Nobody was rallying for a ‘right to rape.’(This is interpretation- Propaganda) I feel no sympathy for those who committed atrocities on October 7, but I do not endorse criminal acts by our soldiers.

Your post is quite contradictory. When a group of fanatic protesters (and Israel has alot of them) cried out for "Israeli Justice" - i.e. to release those soldiers accused of crimes against humanity, they were supported by Israeli leaders - i.e. leaders Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu to name but two. The narrative in Israel is more about defending the criminals rather then acknowledging the crimes. By all accounts this was not an isolated incident. The Israeli Government denied bad things were happening and when one of their own highlighted the issue she was effectively ostracized and invited to.... "take a long swim".

What we are seeing is that Israeli society is either supporting torture and murder, or looking the other way. Those Israeli's that finally get the courage to stand up and highlight the problem in society, are promptly removed from society. Justice is in very short supply, rather we are seeing a collective movement to silence accountability. Dismissing multiple reports and multiple leaks as “hamas propaganda” is a very dangerous thing. The notion of I am good and you are bad is never safe. everyone has their good and bad moments and if people refuse to acknowledge their bad moments then those bad moments will multiply. That is the road that Israel is taking. We are not talking about Hamas or Palestinians here; we are talking about Israeli society’s refusal to look honestly at itself. I am reminded of the Ambulances incident. "shoot at them" "detain them" "torture them" "execute them" "bury them" "bury the ambulances too" no accountability whatsoever. this is a very dark road, and very very difficult to turn around. what do these events do to the conscience of an Israeli soldier? nothing good.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 4 2025 04:35am

If someone raped your sister and murdered your mother, and then the cop who caught him shoved a stick up his ass, would you really care? Probably not. You only care when it fits your own agenda.

You’re judging an entire nation based on a loud fringe. Israel, like any democracy, has its extremists, but most Israelis don’t support torture or murder. We serve, fight, and die to protect civilians, including Arabs and Palestinians, while Hamas and others celebrate death and use civilians as shields.

When a soldier commits a crime, he faces investigation, trial, and punishment. That’s not denial, that’s accountability. The fact that such cases even reach the media and courts shows that Israel still holds itself to a legal and moral standard, something that doesn’t exist under Hamas rule.

Those protests you mentioned were led by a small group of ultra-right radicals, the same kind Ben Gvir represents. Most Israelis just want to live in peace, raise their kids, and never see another war. But peace won’t come from fake moral comparisons or one-sided hate. It starts by admitting that Israel’s enemies target civilians on purpose, while Israel struggles to defend itself under impossible circumstances.

You keep separating the "loud fringe" from the "silent majority", but the evidence suggests the "fringe" as you call it, is setting the agenda. The government that supports the protesters who stormed the military base is the government. Is the government fringe? no, its the government of the day. The culture that chants for the death of Arab children in football stadiums is the same culture that creates a 'toxic atmosphere' forcing Maccabi to withdraw. The system that prosecutes low-level soldiers but exiles the top lawyer who dared to show the public why they're being prosecuted is not a system dedicated to accountability; it's a system managing its PR.

You ask if I'd care if my family was murdered. It's a powerful emotional question, but it's the wrong question for a state that claims to be a democracy governed by law. The right question is: what kind of society do we become if we don't care? The road from "I understand the rage" to "everything is legitimate" is very short, as the protesters' chants showed. You say you don't endorse criminal acts, but your defense focuses entirely on the context to explain them away. A society that cannot honestly confront its own darkness, that punishes its whistleblowers as traitors, is on a dark path. This isn't about comparing Israel to Hamas; it's about holding yourself to the standard you claim to represent, which clearly, you do not. You represent what we all see, as Israel. This is NOT the Israel that anyone wants, its the Israel that exists today.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 4 2025 10:55am

You are entitled to your wrong opinion.

For which cause were they rallying then, if I may ask?
Which action other than rape did they refer to when chanting "everything is legitimate"?