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Oct 29 2025 09:10am
Also, if it’s INTERNATIONAL LAW, why don’t other countries just put sanctions on Israel? Just because the USA won’t it doesn’t mean that other can’t, since it’s international.


As i already wrote, they are beginning to.

That’s lovely. But if the country doesn’t need your money or trade, then what? Do you think the USA would collapse without international trade?


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That’s lovely. But if the country doesn’t need your money or trade, then what?

Hypothetically sure if a country and it's citizens are completely fine being shunned from the world i guess that could work. No country on earth does it better alone though.


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Do you think the USA would collapse without international trade?

Depends what you mean with collapse but technically yes! Not immediately ofc, the economy would collapse first and prices would run rampant. You know that US is the largest importer of goods in the world right? They don't do that just for the hell of it, it's because it benefits them otherwise wouldn't be a point in the trade to begin with.



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Oct 29 2025 09:12am
Lol well that’s not true. There’s no legal framework for the USA handing over “it’s war criminals” to the ICC. Suddenly creating this legal framework in order to hand over your political enemies to a foreign body for prosecution would be treasonous.

The ICC is a political tool and everyone who engages in war is guilty of war crimes if you don’t like them. This is why America does not recognize or humor the right of the ICC or anyone else to judge American citizens.


that's how it's supposed to work. You're right that US is not a signed member of the ICC.
Also i hope america is not so far corrupt that they would consider their politic advisaries as enemies. Either way it would be an international court that would convict or acquit a person of a war crime. If your political adversary is not guilty of anything then the case won't even be brought i hope

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Oct 29 2025 09:27am
Lol well that’s not true. There’s no legal framework for the USA handing over “it’s war criminals” to the ICC. Suddenly creating this legal framework in order to hand over your political enemies to a foreign body for prosecution would be treasonous.
The ICC is a political tool and everyone who engages in war is guilty of war crimes if you don’t like them. This is why America does not recognize or humor the right of the ICC or anyone else to judge American citizens.


There's a legal framework already in place, the US congress passed a law explicitly giving military authority to the president to wage war upon the ICC if it ever abducts any US citizens and take any measures necessary to return them.
Civis Americanus Sum still holds
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Oct 29 2025 09:54am
Hamas was already a nebulously defined command structure before Israel assassinated every leadership position they could identify.
A disorganized conglomeration as a foe has the advantage of inability to carry out organized attacks, but the disadvantage that no centralized authority can enforce a peace deal.
I wasn't really expecting Hamas to be able to release all the living hostages as part of the deal so that surprised me, but some sporadic attacks on Israeli forces by splinter groups or militias or just rogue Hamas members, in breach of the ceasefire, is unsurprising.

If Israel is serious about the ceasefire this had to be an expected outcome and there needed to be a protocol to deal with it. And that could take the form of localized proportional military strikes and then a return to ceasefire once the immediate threats are dealt with
Whereas if Israel is using the occasional breach by low level gunmen as casus belli to resume a full scale war, it means Israel was never actually interested in peace


israel = a kid saying "time out" then "time in" quickly after
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Oct 29 2025 11:59am
that's how it's supposed to work. You're right that US is not a signed member of the ICC.
Also i hope america is not so far corrupt that they would consider their politic advisaries as enemies. Either way it would be an international court that would convict or acquit a person of a war crime. If your political adversary is not guilty of anything then the case won't even be brought i hope


As I said, the ICC is a political tool, it's wielded as a cudgel against political enemies. It's not the USA that is so corrupt(at least in this case), it's Europe.

As i already wrote, they are beginning to.




Hypothetically sure if a country and it's citizens are completely fine being shunned from the world i guess that could work. No country on earth does it better alone though.



Depends what you mean with collapse but technically yes! Not immediately ofc, the economy would collapse first and prices would run rampant. You know that US is the largest importer of goods in the world right? They don't do that just for the hell of it, it's because it benefits them otherwise wouldn't be a point in the trade to begin with.


All America has to do to ensure the collapse of Europe is to withdraw from NATO and recall all military assets in Europe. This would be bad for America, but the entire European continent would set itself on fire and fan the flames for another thousand years. They're totally incapable of defending themselves. They couldn't do anything about it either, so crippled by the sudden need for military spending that any thoughts of retaliation through sanctions would be throwing gasoline in their own wounds and lighting it. Lol maybe America stops ensuring safe passage for your merchant vessels also, and piracy runs rampant. Now not trading with America has forced you to stop trading with most of the rest of the world.

America profits immensely from relations with the entire world, but everyone else profits much more. War in Europe didn't end suddenly after thousands of years because they all suddenly became peaceful, it ended because America made it impossible to wage war in Europe.

For America to destroy Europe not a single shot needs to be fired, nor any aggressive action taken. It's fkin astounding how Europeans feel so confident on their high horses throwing rocks from their glass houses
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Oct 29 2025 08:56pm
As I said, the ICC is a political tool, it's wielded as a cudgel against political enemies. It's not the USA that is so corrupt(at least in this case), it's Europe.



All America has to do to ensure the collapse of Europe is to withdraw from NATO and recall all military assets in Europe. This would be bad for America, but the entire European continent would set itself on fire and fan the flames for another thousand years. They're totally incapable of defending themselves. They couldn't do anything about it either, so crippled by the sudden need for military spending that any thoughts of retaliation through sanctions would be throwing gasoline in their own wounds and lighting it. Lol maybe America stops ensuring safe passage for your merchant vessels also, and piracy runs rampant. Now not trading with America has forced you to stop trading with most of the rest of the world.

America profits immensely from relations with the entire world, but everyone else profits much more. War in Europe didn't end suddenly after thousands of years because they all suddenly became peaceful, it ended because America made it impossible to wage war in Europe.

For America to destroy Europe not a single shot needs to be fired, nor any aggressive action taken. It's fkin astounding how Europeans feel so confident on their high horses throwing rocks from their glass houses


Well i wholeheartedly disagree with basically everything in that analysis.
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Oct 30 2025 08:56am
Well i wholeheartedly disagree with basically everything in that analysis.


Well you are entitled to your wrong opinions
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Oct 30 2025 09:14pm
Well you are entitled to your wrong opinions


and you to yours sir.
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Oct 31 2025 11:40am
The peacekeeping force in Gaza has been announced as a 100% muslim force with no western forces or jews on the ground, though Israel is also prohibiting turkish and qatari participation, so 'moderate' muslims being the idea.
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Oct 31 2025 11:44am
The peacekeeping force in Gaza has been announced as a 100% muslim force with no western forces or jews on the ground, though Israel is also prohibiting turkish and qatari participation, so 'moderate' muslims being the idea.


To be fair, Arabs(generally) hate Turks and don't want them in charge of anything either
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