Anyone else think that the way republicans blatantly lie and get their base to believe it wholeheartedly, is going to be studied for years to come?

Republican lies in the last couple of weeks that I can think of off the top of my head:

- Dem CR contains health insurance funding for undocumented immigrants (besides Reagan era law that requires hospitals to provide life saving ER visits). This is a blatant lie and not a single person who has claimed it has been able to point to the statute in the publicly available CR. Also, undoc immigrants pay somewhere between $30bn and $100bn a year into Medicaid, SS, and Medicare and they do not get access that at all. So even if they were getting health insurance, they are funding it themselves, but they aren't.

- $50bn rural hospital assistance being blocked by dems in CR. Repubs SLASHED $150bn in their July bill for rural hospitals and realized it would impact them in midterms so they try to add back $50bn and then claim dems are blocking it, even though they removed it in the first place.

- Trump won't touch the East Wing to build his ballsack room. Trump is even is on video saying this and so is the press sec. He demolished the east wing, but repubs are literally claiming it is still there even though imagery shows it is gone.

- Dems want to add $1.5 Trillion to the CR. This is false, as dems are just requesting a continuation of tax credits that are already there, but repubs have slashed that 1.5T to fund their $4 trillion deficit bill that is a tax break for billionaires.

- Trump is able to demolish the east wing, because former presidents did construction (and then give a historical list)... All congressionally approved... Trump was not. IT IS LITERALLY PUBLIC INFO THAT HE WAS NOT CONGRESSIONALLY APPROVED because the gov't is shut down and the National Parks Service did not permit it. PUBLIC INFO.

- This is a democrat shutdown. False. Repubs control house, senate, presidency (and some would say supreme court). Trump has said in the past multiple time that shutdowns fall on the president. Repubs could vote to change the rules to force a passing of the CR if they really cared. House repubs refuse to meet for negotiations. They claim the dirty bill was bipartisan and it literally wasn't... All repubs and 1 dem voted to pass it.

These are just a few examples and I will continue to add more examples of the blatant denials of reality and facts.

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Oct 23 2025 08:31pm

I'm going to make an unpopular comment that's probably good for nothing.
all politicians lies whether it's democrats or republicans.
The problem with the 2 party system is in my opinion that all hierachies have a tendency to become corrupted over time especially when there's no real free market to regulate this sort of tendency. This has become true for both parties.
Solution is fairly simple: More viable parties to vote for. What this would do is
centralize the government more and keep the fringe minorities on the outskirts where they belong (far right idiots and far left idiots) that way politicians can cooperate across party lines to get healthy policies across and it's easier to hold individual candidates accountable and exclude the rouge idiots that from time to time appear.

just want to make sure u seen this

documented leftie policies
"policies" are not determined by the lies that come out of their mouths policies are defined by their actions.
democrat policies of lies and harassment made and solidified the trump base.
trump is your fault leftie

the covid kook party?
the pathological liars party?
the party of harassment?
the war party?
blm/antifa street terrorists party

we gona get trump/ charli brown kicking the foot ball
tax returns (turns out he paid alot of taxes and everyone laughed at maddow)---- took a L
impeachments (remember bugeyes and the "secret " witness that never was)--- took a couple L
indictments (weaponized legal system) (seriously? were they trying to look weak?)---- took several L
tarriffs---- still playing out - 6/27/25 looks like tariffs has brought in excess 80 billion dollars- tariffs worked REEEEEEEEEEE take another L

lied about masks
lied about covid
lied about the 'vaccine
lied about social distancing
lie about trump being a rapist
lockdown harassment
cant get into enough wars. Joy Reid Caught on Hot Mic Criticizing Joe Biden for 'Starting Another F*cking War'
mass coercion to force everyone into face diapers
mass coercion to force everyone into injecting some nasty product falsely called a 'vaccine
BLM/antifa street teoorists Burning, Looting, Murdering
was ok with chyna anal swabbing everyone
obsessed with genitals
penis pride
race grifting on a level never seen before
obsessed with skin color
knee on George floyds neck was a cop problem. barf racist lefties turned it into a racial issue
called people non- essential
took peoples jobs
stole 2020
weaponized the legal system against political enemies
massive lie campaign j6th "iNsUrReCtIoN"
murder of little unarmed woman ashli babbitt
obsessed with baby murdering (abortion)
child mutilation (transing)
pedo protectors (calling hunters video "dic pics" when its clearly seen the female in the vid looks under age)
financing invasion (wide open boarders)
trump is hItLeR over and over and over and over and over and over........
constant harassment name calling, nazi, fascist, homophobe, transphobe, whyte supremacist, misogynist, bigot.......antivaxxer, antiscience, conspiraree thorist
only began to care about the epstien files when they could spin the narrative to go after trump
will celibrate someone being murdered (charlie kirk) for free speech but cry n cry n cry if some one gets fired for it. (leftie azzhat show)
lie and say antifa doesnt exist

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your a nazi REEEEEEEEEEEEE
if you dont do everything we say your a nazi REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
we gona throw rocks at you REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
we march down your street and throw bricks through your window REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
put a mask on REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
take bill gates trump fachi ouchie REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
date trannies REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
take your guns away you dont need them REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yeah, again

Why do you lie then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate
Reps have 52 votes in senate, 60 are required.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Oct 24 2025 02:35am

quite a list isnt it?

Yes i know and while i can go into some of these points you made and contest them it doesn't really serve that much of a purpose.
The left has made a complete fool of it self in the US by catering to far left extremism instead of the working class there's no doubt about that. My problem in both camps is that you're entrenched, it doesn't matter now if the right lies and cheats and steals because your argument always by default is "not worse than the left" and you might even have a point and that's pathetic and certainly not good enough.

There is no middle in US politic's. that sums up the problem. problems fester and boil.

There's a huge middle, but it's just being ignored because normal hard working americans that just try to take care of themselves and their neighbours don't get news time, they're boring. So they're ignored. I think though that Israel is a perfect example of a 'middle' point where both republicans and democrats agree that they have gone way too far. Media doesn't help ofc they're super biased on both fronts so a third and fourth viable political party would likely open up for more media companies and then the remaining ones would liekly not just pick sides but just report the news more fairly and let people again make up their own damn minds.

This ^

It never ceases to amaze me how people who know absolutely nothing about how the government works seem to have such big opinions on it.