Hi,

A couple of months ago I came back to D2 after many years, and I’m trying to get back up to speed. I’m having trouble pricing rare items, specifically rings and amulets. I’ve tried using the point system, even trained my own GPT with sources like Maxroll, JSP, etc., but still, the only thing I’ve managed to figure out is whether something is valuable or not. The problem is how to quantify the value of those items. ChatGPT, even after providing it with several reliable sources, still gets it wrong quite often and gives me a different appraisal each time for the same item.

To summarize, my question is this: knowing that a ring/amulet is valuable, how can I quantify that value in FGs?

I know it depends on several factors — whether the item meets certain requirements, whether it’s useful for more common builds (which would make it easier to sell), etc. But I still haven’t figured out how to interpret all that in terms of its FG equivalent.

This situation has caused a lot of idiots to message me trying to scam me. On the other hand, I’ve also been lucky enough to receive genuine PMs from people who warned me about the real value of my items and alerted me to the dishonest attempts from less honest users.

Here’s a good example of that: you can see how one user follows me from the trade post to the price check post trying to scam me. He fails thanks to the kindness and honesty of others and things end well → https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107158566&f=271&p=678890952#p678890952

Thank you

Ok, in case it helps anyone: ChatGPT is completely USELESS for this task. I’ve tried pretty much EVERYTHING possible. From trying to train it with point systems; integrating pre-made calculators and/or spreadsheets; giving it sources with all the builds so it could learn the BIS for each one and therefore take market demand into account, etc. I even tried — unsuccessfully — to make a scraper that would search for already posted items similar to mine so I could make comparisons.

I’m starting to think that many people around here just make up prices or set them by guesswork xd

you can run pc thread for honest opinions.

and you can follow similar threads on rings/ammy for bin/sold info.

gl.

play the game and learn by playing. the ring you posted was crap btw so dont know what you're getting at

Depends on the item but for example if you have a eth fools or high ed cruel claw i would post that in the assassins discord price check as the discord is filled with highly knowledgeable assassin players plus plain players actively looking for items. But the price check channel in that discord is highly active and is filled with top tier jsp users to give you a good indication of price or if an item is charsi food. Pm me your discord user and I can add you or pm alphasin for an invite mate. Hope this helps somewhat.

Rings are valued by points - u can find max values on the nearly easily. Maximum 6 point rings

6 useful mods with max or nearly max stats are valued very high. Usefull are fcr, life, mana, stats and res. Dual leech also, but other mods are useful for PvP

Amulets - obviously 2 skills or 3 to certain skill like light skills, combat pala etc

For amus u need to see certain BPs of classes - 17 fcr for Sin, 18 fcr for Druid, 20 for Din etc

I paid over 1k for 2/10 sorc but very usefull other mods.

Lastly for Amus - high stats are desirable, dex for Din, str for Sorceress etc

GL

check Mr.Cooley on youtube - u can find several good video there

Play the game. PVP and PVM.
See whats good and bad.
PVP me - get stomped
then go see chinese shops for rates of common items

gds

the main issue is that rare/crafted items, especially rings/amulets have very varied prices depending on who wants the item.

9/10 ppl would pay 1k for amulet X but 1/10 would pay 2k and u cant quantify that

same goes for rings/pelts/boots/gloves, there simply isnt a fixed price for rare/crafted items.

Look at the site, see what people are selling, and talk to people in the game. Eventually you'll get a feel for it.


and if you are not sure about an item, see if you can find topics like that item or something similar

If you don't find anything, just pm people you think are experienced and sell a lot. There are also many friendly games here