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Oct 18 2025 11:50am
Hey community.

Im making a ww barb for mf.

I use griefz and lwzerker.

For merc, should i use act1 faith or act2pride with doom.

P3 count.
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Oct 18 2025 12:10pm
You voluntarily want to avoid all the best options for all those items slots?
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Oct 18 2025 12:11pm
You voluntarily want to avoid all the best options for all those items slots?


what do you mean?
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Oct 18 2025 12:28pm
what do you mean?


You only listed a bunch of sub-optimal options to chose from.
Legit question I was asking, some people want to make the game harder, or the don’t care about using weaker gear just for the looks. So it feels strange to ask what is best among bad options if you don’t care about playing what’s best :p

Dual grief PB

Might merc
Eth reaper
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Oct 18 2025 12:35pm
You only listed a bunch of sub-optimal options to chose from.
Legit question I was asking, some people want to make the game harder, or the don’t care about using weaker gear just for the looks. So it feels strange to ask what is best among bad options if you don’t care about playing what’s best :p

Dual grief PB

Might merc
Eth reaper


Im using grief/lw for more mf. Im playing low player count so clear speed is good.

but is act2 merc with ereap better over act1 faith? I was thinking the faith increase my damage more and help reach ww bp.
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Oct 18 2025 12:42pm
Im using grief/lw for more mf. Im playing low player count so clear speed is good.

but is act2 merc with ereap better over act1 faith? I was thinking the faith increase my damage more and help reach ww bp.


Loosing that much kill speed and requiring to go to town repair non-stop is not worth ~40-49% mf. Mf has big diminishing returns anyway. You’d need at least 500% mf on LW to be worth using it over grief.
PB is way better than zerk (for pvm).

Fanatisism lvl 15 gives you only 144% ed, and you don’t need the ias.
In comparison, you could get lvl 24 might + lvl 20 conc, for a total of 270 + 345 = 615 % ed.

615/144=4.271 times better

And this is still less dmg than what you get from the very best option:
Reaper.
-50% DR is absolutely insane compared to this.
Lots of mobs have around 50% DR. Bringing them down to 0% you literally double your total dmg.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Oct 18 2025 12:43pm
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Oct 18 2025 03:48pm
Loosing that much kill speed and requiring to go to town repair non-stop is not worth ~40-49% mf. Mf has big diminishing returns anyway. You’d need at least 500% mf on LW to be worth using it over grief.
PB is way better than zerk (for pvm).

Fanatisism lvl 15 gives you only 144% ed, and you don’t need the ias.
In comparison, you could get lvl 24 might + lvl 20 conc, for a total of 270 + 345 = 615 % ed.

615/144=4.271 times better

And this is still less dmg than what you get from the very best option:
Reaper.
-50% DR is absolutely insane compared to this.
Lots of mobs have around 50% DR. Bringing them down to 0% you literally double your total dmg.


This ^
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Oct 19 2025 06:42pm
Mf on barb more about the hork than the first kill. Just get the dual grief phase and have isted Alibaba's on swap.
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Oct 19 2025 06:53pm
Thanks everyone. I guess it makes sense to value clear speed over mf. Ill be using nigma war trav and gheed. I guess thats enough.
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Oct 20 2025 01:58am
Thanks everyone. I guess it makes sense to value clear speed over mf. Ill be using nigma war trav and gheed. I guess thats enough.


Defo enough. Ptopaz ur hat plus honestly goldwrap for belt ain't going to hurt your dam if ur not going for fcr
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