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Oct 15 2025 10:58am
"safety of our people is the only option, also if we're missing even one pinky bone we will reinvade for ummmmm safety. yes its all about safety."

israeli helicopters could be on the border in 45 mins MAX, yet the world watched on twitter for hours while the military stood down. israel could have intercepted the trucks taking hostages back to gaza city if they felt like it, but they didnt. wonder why.


ehh i disagree with this. i believe israel did try to stop hostages being taken. anyways, lets see what happens.
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Oct 15 2025 11:15am
ehh i disagree with this. i believe israel did try to stop hostages being taken. anyways, lets see what happens.


Do you also believe firing on the USS Liberty was an accident?
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Oct 15 2025 11:19am
ehh i disagree with this. i believe israel did try to stop hostages being taken. anyways, lets see what happens.


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A timeline of the Hamas-led attacks on Israel on October 7, 2023, known as Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, includes a massive rocket barrage followed by ground, sea, and air incursions by militants. The assault resulted in approximately 1,200 deaths, mostly civilians, and the abduction of around 250 hostages.
Morning invasion and rocket fire

The attack began around 6:30 a.m. IST with Hamas launching over 2,200 rockets from Gaza, triggering air raid sirens across southern and central Israel and overwhelming the Iron Dome defense system. Around the same time, Hamas military leader Muhammad Deif announced the start of "Operation Al-Aqsa Flood". The first militants arrived at Kibbutz Be'eri around 6:56 a.m., starting a massacre. Around 7:00 a.m., militants attacked the Supernova music festival, killing 364 people and taking hostages. Thousands of militants breached the Gaza-Israel barrier, entering various towns and kibbutzim, killing civilians and taking more hostages. The IDF confirmed the incursions by 7:40 a.m., advising residents to stay indoors. Rocket fire reached Jerusalem by 8:15 a.m.. Israel declared a "state of alert for war" and began activating reservists. By 8:34 a.m., Israel announced counteroffensive operations, and the Israeli Air Force started striking targets in Gaza by 10:47 a.m..
Later in the day and into the evening

At 11:35 a.m., Prime Minister Netanyahu declared Israel was at war. The U.S. condemned the attacks and supported Israel around 12:29 p.m.. IDF soldiers reached the Nova festival site by 2:17 p.m.. President Biden spoke with Netanyahu, offering support at 4:08 p.m., and later issued a public condemnation around 6:15 p.m.. Hundreds were reported missing by 6:00 p.m.. After 6:00 p.m., an Israeli security cabinet retroactively declared a state of war. The IDF reported killing militants in southern Israel by 7:11 p.m., and Israeli special forces began retaking control of occupied areas in Sderot by 7:57 p.m.. Israeli forces continued to engage with remaining militants throughout the evening


the music festival was attacked at 7 AM, and soldiers got there at 2:17 PM.

that's 7 hours. 3 hours after they declared the country was at war. they were literally bombing gaza 3 and a half hours BEFORE they got to the festival.

again, it takes 45 mins to get from the capital to the border via helicopter, and there are several bases far closer.

"why do we give israel money"....its for their intel, they know so much we dont. sure, sure, sure, sure, but..... they're either criminally incompetent or guilty of human sacrifice.
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Oct 15 2025 11:47am
Do you also believe firing on the USS Liberty was an accident?


nope. they did that on purpose.

sec let me answer snipa's question in another way:

the music festival was attacked at 7 AM, and soldiers got there at 2:17 PM.

that's 7 hours. 3 hours after they declared the country was at war. they were literally bombing gaza 3 and a half hours BEFORE they got to the festival.

again, it takes 45 mins to get from the capital to the border via helicopter, and there are several bases far closer.

"why do we give israel money"....its for their intel, they know so much we dont. sure, sure, sure, sure, but..... they're either criminally incompetent or guilty of human sacrifice.


IDF soldiers testified in the knesset that on the morning of Oct 7th they were ordered to stand down, effectively, to allow the attack.
i cannot speak to the delay of action by the IDF re: what you have outlined. i do however believe that the the IDF bombed some of its own people rather then see them taken captive.
it is a fact that netanyahu ordered Qatar to be bombed in order to detail negotiations.

trusting this clarifies my position.
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Oct 15 2025 11:59am
hamas invades israel, hamas takes hostages back to gaza city, stores hostages in tunnels and houses.

israel bombs gaza city reducing it to literal rubble, israel explicitly states this is to destroy hamas buildings and tunnels.

israel then demands hostage bodies be returned, wtf.jpg. im sure some of them are encased in cement israel used to fill in tunnels. good job israel.


To destroy a tunnel that’s 40 meters deep, you need soldiers to enter it and plant explosives from inside. Every tunnel that was destroyed had already been searched by Israeli forces beforehand. I hope that clears up the ignorance and explains why Israel’s demand is completely legitimate.
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Oct 15 2025 12:16pm
nope. they did that on purpose.

sec let me answer snipa's question in another way:



IDF soldiers testified in the knesset that on the morning of Oct 7th they were ordered to stand down, effectively, to allow the attack.
i cannot speak to the delay of action by the IDF re: what you have outlined. i do however believe that the the IDF bombed some of its own people rather then see them taken captive.
it is a fact that netanyahu ordered Qatar to be bombed in order to detail negotiations.

trusting this clarifies my position.


i know a certain someone who's call that antisemitic racist blood libel. :rofl:

To destroy a tunnel that’s 40 meters deep, you need soldiers to enter it and plant explosives from inside. Every tunnel that was destroyed had already been searched by Israeli forces beforehand. I hope that clears up the ignorance and explains why Israel’s demand is completely legitimate.


like clockwork there he is!

ok, so tunnels are clear. what about thousands of buildings that are rubble? did israel clear those too?

ignorance. that's racist blood libel against white europeans. we've been called ignorant for thousands of years and we wont stand for it anymore. we must be safe from slander.

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Oct 15 2025 12:37pm
that's racist blood libel against white europeans. we've been called ignorant for thousands of years and we wont stand for it anymore. we must be safe from slander.


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Oct 15 2025 01:33pm
To destroy a tunnel that’s 40 meters deep, you need soldiers to enter it and plant explosives from inside. Every tunnel that was destroyed had already been searched by Israeli forces beforehand. I hope that clears up the ignorance and explains why Israel’s demand is completely legitimate.


so to be clear - is it your position is that all of the hostages bodies should be returned and you do not accept that some of these bodies can no longer be located. and that therefore there should be consequences.

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Oct 15 2025 01:35pm
i know a certain someone who's call that antisemitic racist blood libel. :rofl:


I sometimes miss posts and conversations. what is this referring to. feel free to ding me on discord if its too much hassle to mention here.


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Oct 15 2025 01:50pm
I sometimes miss posts and conversations. what is this referring to. feel free to ding me on discord if its too much hassle to mention here.


referring to many names, who says any factual information that makes israel look bad is just antisemitism and racism.
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