Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2025 12:31pm)

Just for sake of argument
Lets say the total death toll in Gaza is around 60-70k. But this apparently also includes the baseline death rate pre-war, with reported numbers being all-cause death which over the same time period would subtract about 3.4 per 1000 or ~7300 per year total for 2 year, accounting perhaps around 14.6k
Of those some unknowable % are militants, attackers, child soldiers, etc, and others civilians. The lions share of the % killed by Israel, but some % were killed by Hamas either intentionally in infighting and executions, or failed rocket launches and friendly fire.
We can estimate about 27% of those killed were under 18 years old, in a gaza strip where about half of the population is under 18, and we can't really know what % of Hamas fighters are under 18 but its clearly significant.

So how many actually died of "starvation"? Where starvation was the actual cause of death, not underlying unrelated/pre-existing conditions or trauma, but lack of access to food as the primary factor.
Is it zero?

Quote (ferdia @ 15 Oct 2025 14:12)

Personal addresses must ever be nuanced when critical, therefore its better to address the group rather then a single user.

Racism Is Not a Disease

When a user states that racism is a mental illness, it reveals a simplistic worldview: black and white morality. I can say or do whatever I want because I am morally superior, and you cannot, because you are racist. You have an illness; I am blessed. The world is not black and white—it is an infinite shade of grey. But some things are fixed: racism is not a disease. Clinical definitions of mental illness involve measurable dysfunction or impairment in cognition or emotion. Prejudice, by contrast, is learned, socially reinforced, and politically mediated. It is not a dysfunction of the brain; it is a choice perpetuated by culture, history, and social incentives.

Racism is not a disease you catch or a virus you quarantine. It is an ideology enforced by fear, hatred, and political convenience. Pretending it is a mental illness is not scholarship—it is cowardice and self-righteousness masquerading as science. It allows those in power to shrug and the indifferent to look the other way, while generations suffer. Human cruelty, when trivialized, becomes easy to ignore. As one user put it, regarding the famine, Gazans “launched a Weight Watchers campaign.” The absurdity is breathtaking: human suffering reduced to punchline. In this worldview, self-blame is impossible, responsibility is optional, and cruelty is excusable. Social patterns, history, politics—poof—they vanish behind a veil of imaginary illness.

When rhetoric turns into decree—“Those who killed, raped, maimed, and played with human limbs are animals”—or when a user declares, “We will just kill them all from the skies,” these statements are racist and dehumanizing. They reduce entire populations to targets, erase individual humanity, and frame violence as not only justified but inevitable. Racism is neither a sickness nor a joke, it is a choice, and it’s clear that choices have been made.

Racism thrives not because people are “sick” but because they are taught to hate.

Quote (Tommyvv @ Oct 15 2025 03:26am)

Not even 48hour past
and they already stopping the food truck go into Gaza
Hunger as a weapon, the jews are still doing it

Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 15 2025 07:48am)

When I said racism is a mental illness, I did not mean it in a clinical or psychiatric sense. I meant that the way some people react to Israel, automatically blaming it regardless of who started what, what the facts are, or how events end, shows the same rigidity and irrationality that define pathological behavior.

This is not about political disagreement. It is about a reflexive hatred that ignores evidence and feeds on moral obsession. You can debate policies, governments, or leaders, but when every outcome is twisted to fit a single narrative that Israel is always guilty, that is not critical thinking. It is fixation.

Calling that mindset a mental illness was shorthand for something deeper: a social and moral pathology that confuses bias for virtue

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 15 Oct 2025 14:50)

Or Israel is actually guilty sometimes. Seems more likely than "everyone but me is racist".

Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 15 2025 07:52am)

If this is what you understood we have nothing to discuss

Quote (ferdia @ Oct 15 2025 08:42am)

It may be difficult for observers to fully comprehend or rationalize the current situation. From an Israeli perspective today, it is seen as entirely rational to demand the return of all deceased hostages.

Israeli officials continue to insist on the return of every set of remains, but this expectation collides with the physical reality on the ground. Much of Gaza has been reduced to rubble, and many areas where hostages were believed to have been held are now inaccessible or destroyed. Under these conditions, recovering every body is not a matter of will — it is a matter of impossibility. Yet within Israel, “impossible” carries no political weight. Leaders are propelled by public outrage, by families demanding closure, and by the optics of strength. The demand itself has become a performance of authority — an assertion of control in a situation where, in truth, control no longer exists.

As suggested above, there is an expectation that tensions will escalate as these demands inevitably collide with reality.

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 15 2025 04:33pm)

hamas invades israel, hamas takes hostages back to gaza city, stores hostages in tunnels and houses.

israel bombs gaza city reducing it to literal rubble, israel explicitly states this is to destroy hamas buildings and tunnels.

israel then demands hostage bodies be returned, wtf.jpg. im sure some of them are encased in cement israel used to fill in tunnels. good job israel.

Quote (ferdia @ Oct 15 2025 11:02am)

ok, well, you explicitly stated what I alluded to. I don't think you will like the response we will get.