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Oct 14 2025 12:37pm
Just an overall overview… (for pvp, thanks goomshill for your numbers for pvm)
With he right numbers this time lol (thanks losm, I knew about CM being 4% not 5, and CM’s AR not applied to fury, but I was ultra distracted earlier)

Total +skills
Circ 2
Enigma 2
HL 1
Arach 1
cta+anni+torch 5
Trap skillers 9
= 20 = blade skills lvl 40 without bonuses on claw
That’s already +1310 base skill dmg, +1390 with +2sin, up to +1510 with 5 skills on claw

Total off-weapon ed%
156 str = 117
300 dex = 225
Phoenix = 400
Claw mastery lvl 31 = 155
Claw mastery lvl 33 = 163
= 897 or 905 with +2sin on claw

Total crit chance
CM lvl 31+ = 23
LoLo = 40 (DS)
Gores = 15 (DS)
HL = up to 37 (DS)
= 92DS + 23Crit = 94% final crit chance

Now if we compare the 3 prefixes combos on perfect claws:
450ed 2os LoLo eth RT = 280.5 avg dmg = 210 final
2sin 300ed 2os LoLo eth RT = 204 avg dmg = 153 final
300ed fools 2os LoLo eth RT = 228.5 avg dmg = 171.375 final
2sin/fools/2os LoLo eth RT = 75.5 avg dmg = 57 final

(210+1310)*9.97*1.94‎ = 29 399,536
(153+1390)*10.05*1.94‎ = 30 083,871
(171.375+1310)*9.97*1.94‎ = 28 652,459
(57+1390)*10.05*1.94‎ = 28 212,159

The dmg numbers are very close in the end.
To a point where the chances that it makes a difference in the numbers of hit required to kill another player are extremely low.
30k dmg per hit = 5k dmg after pvp penalties, enough to 1 hit kill most chars without high dr%, or 2-3 hit kill tankier ones with high life/dr%.

What’s the main factor at this point?
Your hit chance. The 2 highest dmg claws on paper shown above have ~10k less ar, which results in way less effective dps.
And your trap laying speed (one of the most critical aspect of this build).
Aiming for 9 fpa is way better than having a bit more dmg at 10 or even 11 fpa, both for offensive and defensive reasons.

If we compare the 300ed/fools to the 2sin/fools
28,652.459/28,212.159 = only 1.56% more dmg on the 300/fools vs 2sin/fools, but you lose 20% AR from either fury or CM for sentinel, which represents around 20% * (1633 + (300*5) + (36*10) + 250 + 120) = 772.6 AR for Fury and 824.6 AR for sentinel (it gives 5 flat AR per lvl), or more if you have other sources of flat AR.
And like I said, increasing your flat dmg by 1% is most likely not gonna change the number of hits required to kill someone.
Increasing your hit chance by 1% is, on the other hand, and by more than 1%…
For exemple, if you go from 70% hit chance to 71%, 71/70 = +1.43%

And the claw with +2sin is also increasing your MB, dtalon and clone (if allowed).

I’ll keep saying it… the BiS claw is 2sin/fools/2os, and it’s much cheaper than any high ed% eth self-rep claw
The suffixes are way less important, but IAS is nice.
RT with 30+ ias and HL = max trap laying speed
Else you kinda need its from jewels in circ and/or its gloves instead of fcr…
I had a 2sin/fools/2os/10ias RT, which forced me to add a 15ias/ed jewel in circ to reach the 42ias bp.

Now, if you wanna go WW hybrid, a cruel claw would be more suited for it. It’s gonna be a lot more expensive tho.
But I personally don’t like the WW hybrid variant.
You lose a lot of blade skill dmg. You start lacking skill pts as you need to invest in weapon block. And dtalon is absolutely great when used on a pure bladesin, cuz up’d gores do a lot of dmg when paired with all that off-weapon ed and dex. And it’s a nice quick answer to KB someone into your field of sentinels. I feel like a pure blades is already so actively laying sentinels and spamming MB, that you don’t have much room left to really benefit from using WW… at least not enough to be worth loosing that much dmg on blades.


It’s very hard to have enough skill points to make a LS/ww/blade hybrid while having enough defensive ability (fade + wb) to matter. You start running into gear setups that don’t work well together. As a hybrid doesn’t have much eD% but a blade build needs it. Then you need ~120 skill points to max LS + synergies and blade fury + synergies.

Then you need different skills on weapons and need to use trap GCs. But them your claws for WW/trap want Um and blade fury wants Lo. And OW doesn’t matter much on blades and Lo doesn’t matter much on a hybrid.


It just doesn’t largely work well together unless you were able to gather some crazy hero editor rare claws. Of which they don’t exist on d2unmastered.
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Oct 14 2025 12:44pm
Those rare claws to make that work would need to be:
2sin
40ias
450 Ed
250 AR
3 LS
3 WB
3 blade fury
Eth rep
Lo Rune
Wrist Sword

Chaos would be:
3 LS
3 WB
3 blade fury
Wrist sword

Would use a viso circ that was:
2sin
20 FCR
30 STR
20 Dex
Vis
2os
2x 40/15ias jewel

Then the rest would be standard 65 FCR build with gore riders

That would give you a decent amount of WB with 8x trap GCs. Fade would still be a struggle. Could argue using dungo and go 42 FCR build.
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Oct 14 2025 12:49pm
It’s very hard to have enough skill points to make a LS/ww/blade hybrid while having enough defensive ability (fade + wb) to matter. You start running into gear setups that don’t work well together. As a hybrid doesn’t have much eD% but a blade build needs it. Then you need ~120 skill points to max LS + synergies and blade fury + synergies.

Then you need different skills on weapons and need to use trap GCs. But them your claws for WW/trap want Um and blade fury wants Lo. And OW doesn’t matter much on blades and Lo doesn’t matter much on a hybrid.


It just doesn’t largely work well together unless you were able to gather some crazy hero editor rare claws. Of which they don’t exist on d2unmastered.


Yeah well I wasn’t even talking about such 3-way hybrid, but ofc it would be even worse overall…
Even just 2-way hybrid blade+ww doesn’t feel right for me.

People should go either pure blade + 1pt dtalon, or WW/LS hybsin.

Blade/WW is a weaker hybrid variant imo.
You weaken both aspects at the same time, and you don’t benefit from having elemental+phys dmg so your opponent can just stack dr%.

And blade/WW/LS just doesn’t make sense as it tries to do everything at the same time, in 3 directions that require different things like you said.
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Oct 14 2025 10:47pm
Yeah well I wasn’t even talking about such 3-way hybrid, but ofc it would be even worse overall…
Even just 2-way hybrid blade+ww doesn’t feel right for me.

People should go either pure blade + 1pt dtalon, or WW/LS hybsin.

Blade/WW is a weaker hybrid variant imo.
You weaken both aspects at the same time, and you don’t benefit from having elemental+phys dmg so your opponent can just stack dr%.

And blade/WW/LS just doesn’t make sense as it tries to do everything at the same time, in 3 directions that require different things like you said.


What if you went with claws in cube, and were playing WW with dual claw setup, could you potentially still get high enough fade to run hybrid, with say a 3/3 shadow/fade claws (venom and 2soc with facets) and a 3 shadow amulet for prebuff with cube shit?
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Oct 14 2025 11:02pm
Not sure, but how about Death + Phoenix ?
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Oct 14 2025 11:06pm
What if you went with claws in cube, and were playing WW with dual claw setup, could you potentially still get high enough fade to run hybrid, with say a 3/3 shadow/fade claws (venom and 2soc with facets) and a 3 shadow amulet for prebuff with cube shit?


The main problem is not the lack of skill to dump into venom/fade.
Sure, it's a bit problematic but...

The main problem is that blade skills want high amounts of off-weapon ed, DS, ar (36/20, fools), +skills, a shield
while WW wants high claw dmg, +max (3/20/20), OW, dual claws

They feel like they would pair well together, but they don't go in the same direction.
Compared to that, WW+LS pair well together, and they offer the big advantage of bringing diversified dmg types, instead of allowing your opponent to just go on a 50% DR max block setup.
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Oct 14 2025 11:20pm
Go with eth amp fool cruel suwayyah LoLo and phoenix
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Oct 15 2025 06:20am
Is Eth Fleshripper with phoenix best set up
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