How many times can the entire population of Gaza starve to death in a single month, every month for multiple years in a row?
There's no famine in Gaza, there are plenty of fat palestinians hogging cameras and plenty of examples of children with leukemia, palsy or other diseases being paraded as supposed starvation victims.
When famines have actually happened in history, its obvious and undeniable and destroys populations quickly.
Even with the ongoing war and 90% of structures being demolished across Gaza and a significant emigration, the population growth is still above 1.00
Making it the least successful genocide in history, they went up by 2% YTY.

There are very real famines going on under siege right now around the world. El Fasher is littered with the dead from starvation, cholera and dengue besides the bombardment. Meanwhile in Gaza apparently access to food is so widespread that the """humanitarian""" foundations have been demanding Israel stop distributing food relief through US contractors and give control back to Hamas aligned groups. In a statistical dive researching individual cases of the 63 reported "malnutrition deaths" reported by the Gaza health ministry that could be verified, found 51 of them were dying of some unrelated condition, most chronic and before the war even began.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 10 2025 12:54am

There's alot of nonsense to unpack there.
1) there is indeed a famine. This has been announced by the IPC (Integrated Food Security Phase Classification). I have previous linked to their findings in this chat so you can go read the report yourself.
2) 90% of structures have been destroyed, by your own admission yet their population thrives and they have plenty of food. Something there seems wrong, don't you think?
3) The population angle is the dumbest one yet. Was there a genocide in the concentration camps during WWII? Because if you just look at the percentages of people arriving then at some point of time you could make the argument that the population of those camps were increasing all the time as german soldiers cramped more and more people in there. The same is happening in Gaza. It's not birthrate. It's displaced people being pushed into a massacre.

4)UN and +100 NGOS could deliver the food, but israel denied them allowance and set up their own relief foundation which blocked all other access and created strangle holds of food relief. The same one is accussed of murdering +1500 people seeking aid. That's all mentioned in the article i JUST linked to.

1) The anti-semitic organizations have accused Israel of every imaginable abuse under the sun, they probably have papers about how Israel is poisoning Gazan wells
The simple fact is that if you keep declaring imminent mass deaths to starvation every week every month every year for multiple years, there clearly isn't a famine.
If Palestinians were starving to death en masse, their population would be going down, not up.
2) Yeah what's wrong is that Palestinians attacked Israel and Israel and its allies are the ones providing all the food handouts to Palestinians, sustaining their population
3) The population of Jews in european countries in 1939 -> 1945 -> 2010 went:
rest of eastern europe including poland: 4,700,000 -> 859,000 -> 70,000
USSR: 3,400,000 -> 2,000,000 -> 310,000
Germany: 195,000 -> 45,000 -> 230,000
France: 320,000 -> 180,000 -> 310,000
In Poland alone it was 3,500,000 -> 240,000 -> 17,000
Gonna give you a hint, those 3 million+ jews missing from poland didn't just go into other countries. Their population wasn't growing by 2%+ per year, it went down almost 95%

4) If an actual famine was taking place, the UN and NGOs wouldn't be demanding food deliveries to Gaza be stopped, no matter where they come from.
Hamas has gunned down people seeking US/Israeli provided food and the UN blamed the US and Israel for it.

1) I don't declare anything champ. the UN, together with the IPC together with 100's of NGOS with people on the actual ground are the ones "declaring it" and your claim that they are all anti semetic is just a straight up lie and you have absolutely not a shred of evidence to support that statement.
2) NGO's have food en masse and israel is denying it's entry because they want to control what comes in. Doctors, soliders, NGOs, have all testified to this.
3) You are purposefully ignoring my point. I'm saying that even if a population in a specific area is showing population growth there can still be starvation and genocide. If a concentration camp in poland has 10,000 prisoners and 5,000 die of starvation and trains arrive with 20,000 new prisoners the population of that prison has gone from 10,000 or 5,000 to 25,000 depending on what time period you look at. But no matter what time period you look at there's still population growth IE no starvation right? You get my point now?
4) UN and all NGOS have been screaming and begging israel to allow aid come in what are you talking about?
That hamas has attacked food supplies have been debunked several times.

lmao you're talking about the UN
Look when someone maneuvers themselves into a statement that's just ridiculous at face value I don't need to try to contradict you or explain how you're wrong, I just leave it to the other readers to have a hearty chuckle



Yes, Israel absolutely wants to control what comes into Gaza because all the weapons Hamas has are smuggled into Gaza.
Hence Israel's necessary blockade and controlling the food distribution. Which they are doing, which is why there isn't a famine and mass starvation.



You're trying to make some utterly asinine point as if it were profound. The population of my bathroom went up by 1 while I took a shit and went back down to 0 afterwards unless we count it as giving birth, and after that last chalupa maybe it should. The Jewish population of Poland went down by 94% in a few years because they were eradicated in a genocide. The population of Ukraine went down by 13%+ in a time when it had been 1-2% growth per year, because of a famine during the Holodomor. With 3.5-4 million excess deaths. Because of that famine. Because that's what happens in actual famines, people die en masse.
The population of Gaza has gone up every year during this war, even including the relatively small exodus
If an actual famine were taking place, the people would be dying and the population going down. Because that's what happens in actual famines, people die in masse.


They have been screaming to stop the US and Israel from delivering food supplies themselves. They have even refused to cooperatively distribute aid with the GHF.
UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric specifically rejected an invitation to distribute aid in Gaza
For fucks sake, they haven't even stopped there, the UN has been trying to cobble together some method to prosecute and attack the GHF, trying to plan a method to use the ICC to accuse those actually distributing the food of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Gee, sure sounds like people who are desperate to get food to a population in a famine, the way they're trying threatening to imprison people getting food to that population.


By who, Hamas spokesmen? Their allies in the UN?
Hamas doesn't just attack the food distribution points, they've placed bounties on aid workers and paid some of them after ambushes.
They've been documented throwing grenades, opening fire on crowds, shooting into busses.

I suppose they were all killed by the same false flagging secret Mossad operatives who dressed up like Arabs on October 7th and killed their fellow jews (who never actually died, they were all crisis actors)
Right?

Goom your very good at catching on lol. fuck my life. OK i will take this approach for a while.

DocPhil, from a point of view, the UN is not considered a reputable source. Therefore nothing it produces is credible.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 10 2025 02:37am

100's of ngos, btselem, doctors, nurses, israelis genocide scholars ect ect ect ect ect but sure laugh at UN even though israel is a member.



Sure all that baby formular that Israel blocks from coming in is such a massive threat to them.



People are dying, but israel keeps pushing more and more people in. That you do not like the current definition of the word famine and you want it to kill more people than what it currently does in gaza just make you heartless i guess.


Yes because they are not letting enough food in, and they shoot at people who come and collect it. The UN has said, repeatedly, that israel should allow the NGO's to do their job, which they all are MUCH MUCH MUCH more capable of doing than some new weirdo setup like the GHF who has never handled distrubution or aid or anything else before. So yes, they should be on trial just like the rest of the israeli government for crimes against hummanity.




What allies does Hamas have inside the UN? Do you count the current israeli government, they certainly did beg qatar to keep sponsoring them until the oct7 attack? What sources do have for this?
Israel is the master of false flag operations right so i wouldn't put anything beneath a currnet terror state, but i'm not going to make such a claim without documentation.

in modern context i think the real true zionists stopped body counting for their metrics. all modern wars they only care about the number of arab refugees they can push into the west to slowly change opinions of liberals against arabs to legitimize further wars.

I wish I could explain myself like he does.
Amazing