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Oct 9 2025 10:41pm
Thats why they have nukes.


Nukes only deter state actors with a clear leadership structure residing in a clearly defined location (say the Mullahs in Teheran). So yes, if Iranian forces or the Syrian army etc. attacked Israel and were on the verge of winning, Israel could threaten to go nuclear to make them stop. But that's a fringe scenario. The only practical way in which the nukes help Israel is deterring hostile neighbors from using WMDs against them.

Where nukes don't really help, however, is a scenario in which the country is attacked by a large, loosely-organized militia full of radicalized fighters who are ready to become martyrs.
Additionally, due to geographic proximity, Israel can't really use nukes in Damascus, Beirut or Gaza because they are to tiny and so stripped for land that they can't risk irradiating any of their own territory.

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Oct 9 2025 10:54pm
Nukes only deter state actors with a clear leadership structure residing in a clearly defined location (say the Mullahs in Teheran). So yes, if Iranian forces or the Syrian army etc. attacked Israel and were on the verge of winning, Israel could threaten to go nuclear to make them stop. But that's a fringe scenario. The only practical way in which the nukes help Israel is deterring hostile neighbors from using WMDs against them.

Where nukes don't really help, however, is a scenario in which the country is attacked by a large, loosely-organized militia full of radicalized fighters who are ready to become martyrs.
Additionally, due to geographic proximity, Israel can't really use nukes in Damascus, Beirut or Gaza because they are to tiny and so stripped for land that they can't risk irradiating any of their own territory.


I mean no large loosely-organized militia of the tens/hundreds of thousands of fighters that it would take to besiege Israel could really exist without being easy targets for nukes. They'd have to already be on top of Israeli forces and overrunning the country before they are targets, not being in pitched battles or any other kind of assembly. If its smaller infiltrations they get picked off, if there are swarms of suicidal arabs trying to march in the millions then they're just a bunch of burnt toast. I mean, its also a bit of a plot hole in the game of thrones backstory, GRRM never really had an explanation for why the anti-targ armies never realized they could just try to penetrate and overrun the opposing armies so dragons would not be able to inflict one-sided losses. But nukes can take out armies before they cross a border.
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Oct 9 2025 11:01pm
I mean no large loosely-organized militia of the tens/hundreds of thousands of fighters that it would take to besiege Israel could really exist without being easy targets for nukes. They'd have to already be on top of Israeli forces and overrunning the country before they are targets, not being in pitched battles or any other kind of assembly. If its smaller infiltrations they get picked off, if there are swarms of suicidal arabs trying to march in the millions then they're just a bunch of burnt toast. I mean, its also a bit of a plot hole in the game of thrones backstory, GRRM never really had an explanation for why the anti-targ armies never realized they could just try to penetrate and overrun the opposing armies so dragons would not be able to inflict one-sided losses. But nukes can take out armies before they cross a border.


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Oct 9 2025 11:02pm
About 100+ NGO's + UN + Several Israeli scholars + Bt'selem + Israeli former prime ministers + the worlds leading scholars on genocide disagrees with you on the starving & genocide statement. So until you can prove there isn't one, there is. You've lost that argument a long time ago.

Who are "they"? you mean random people in the street that sing something in celebration that they still draw breath?
You have a prime minister and several war cabinet ministers openly calling for genocide and has made several genocidal statements and yet some random people singing something about something that happened 1400 years ago that may or may not be a reference to the present day and that somehow justifies murdering them all. That's just absolutely insanity.


You do not know the history therefore ignorant.
Gazans sings Khaybar which means they want to Genocide us - also I never said murder them all

You actually need to prove there is one, I dont need to prove my innocence this is not how it works

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Oct 9 2025 11:11pm
Cany tiny Israel do it at scale, though? Yes, you can produce interceptors and shells and bullets and missiles - but can you produce enough of this stuff from production sites located in Israel?

Truth be told, I believe if the Arab world went into some sort of collective blood frenzy and was willing to stomach millions of dead fighters for the cause, they could already overrun Israel today by doing it like the Zerg in Starcraft...


You need air superiority for that, and they simply dont and wont have it.
And we will just kill them all from the skies
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Oct 9 2025 11:47pm
You do not know the history therefore ignorant.
Gazans sings Khaybar which means they want to Genocide us - also I never said murder them all

You actually need to prove there is one, I dont need to prove my innocence this is not how it works


But i do know the history and it's not very pretty.

You never said murder them all - your politicians do, i think that makes it worse, because they are actually people of power.

It's been proven there is one. Just because you say there isn't one doesn't make it so.

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Oct 10 2025 12:18am
But i do know the history and it's not very pretty.

You never said murder them all - your politicians do, i think that makes it worse, because they are actually people of power.

It's been proven there is one. Just because you say there isn't one doesn't make it so.


It wasn’t proven anywhere and saying stuff is different than doing.
Specially by couple of far right morons in the israeli government that cant affect anything
No one starved even ferida fan admit that unless he still waits for the starvation to set in

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Oct 10 2025 12:23am
You do not know the history therefore ignorant.
Gazans sings Khaybar which means they want to Genocide us - also I never said murder them all

You actually need to prove there is one, I dont need to prove my innocence this is not how it works


This is what they sing actually

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Oct 10 2025 12:24am
It wasn’t proven anywhere and saying stuff is different than doing.
Specially by couple of far right morons in the israeli government that cant affect anything
No one starved even ferida fan admit that unless he still waits for the starvation to set in


It has indeed been proven and been declared by several independent researches, scholars and international committees. That you are blind to israels evils doesn't change anything.
These far right morons as you claim them to be are part of the government that enacts and enables these horrors so they can indeed do something, and they are.

No starvation huh.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/08/almost-55000-children-in-gaza-acutely-malnourished-lancet-study-estimates
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Oct 10 2025 12:48am
There is no evidence to support you can change his mind. i am going to take a different approach:

Israel has made a number of notable global contributions across humanitarian, technological, environmental, and diplomatic fields. Its emergency teams, such as IsraAID and the IDF’s Home Front Command, have provided rapid disaster relief in countries including Turkey, Nepal, Haiti, and Japan. Israel’s leadership in water innovation—through desalination, drip irrigation, and recycling technologies pioneered by companies like Netafim—has helped nations such as India, Kenya, and Jordan manage water scarcity. The Jewish National Fund and related organizations have planted over 240 million trees since the early 20th century, making Israel one of the few countries with a net forest gain in recent decades. On the diplomatic front, Israel has pursued peace and normalization through treaties with Egypt and Jordan, as well as the Abraham Accords with the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan. Its technological ingenuity has yielded globally beneficial inventions like the USB flash drive, the Waze navigation app, and the PillCam for internal diagnostics. Continuing this spirit of innovation, Israel has joined international climate initiatives, promoting solar energy, water conservation, and a commitment to achieving net-zero emissions by 2050.

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