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Oct 7 2025 12:51am
UK PM Keir Starmer urges students not to join pro-Palestinian protests on the second anniversary of the 7 October Hamas attack on Israel. He says it would be "un-British" for the planned rallies to go ahead, adding they have been used by some as a "despicable excuse to attack British Jews".

So basically the UK has been selling F35 parts while at the same time giving political cover to Israel all the while they have a gag order against their papers on certain israeli topics and they flew over Gaza every day since Day 1 to give Israeli all the intel they needed to bomb Gaza every day for two years.

Keir Starmer. a true Brit.
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Oct 7 2025 08:10am
90% of all roads destroyed, 70% of ALL structures destroyed, 90% of all hospitals destroyed, etc etc etc

"they sell iphone 17 pros in there"

this is such a sad case of "dont believe your lying eyes".


It’s simple… if militants use civilian buildings to fire rockets, snipe soldiers or store weapons, those buildings lose immunity. If they don’t use them, they won’t be destroyed.
When I mentioned iPhone 17s, it was to point out that Gaza is flooded with aid and luxury goods, so the narrative of total siege is nonsense.
But that’s exactly the effect they want: to make some ‘useful idiots’ in the West cry foul and pressure Israel to stop defending itself.
We won’t. We’ll keep striking every place they use even if its hospitals, schools, or malls until they surrender. That’s how you fight terrorists.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Oct 7 2025 08:11am
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Oct 7 2025 09:07am
It’s simple… if militants use civilian buildings to fire rockets, snipe soldiers or store weapons, those buildings lose immunity. If they don’t use them, they won’t be destroyed.
When I mentioned iPhone 17s, it was to point out that Gaza is flooded with aid and luxury goods, so the narrative of total siege is nonsense.
But that’s exactly the effect they want: to make some ‘useful idiots’ in the West cry foul and pressure Israel to stop defending itself.
We won’t. We’ll keep striking every place they use even if its hospitals, schools, or malls until they surrender. That’s how you fight terrorists.


the math aint mathing, nor is reality.

Hamas militants numbered what? 20,000 more or less before the Israeli invasion? so 20,000 people used the homes of 2.2 million people, all as military installments? that's 110 buildings per soldier, with zero soldier losses, for the entirety of the war.

and what of the cities that have been leveled AFTER evacuation? is the desolate landscape of Gaza city still hiding soldiers in every building? are the bulldozers actually just military assault vehicles clearing out people?

of course not, there are no people left in the cities. the tunnels if there are any left after bombardment aren't safely tucked under civilian infrastructure, there was no infrastructure left just a few spare buildings left after the bombing. but rather than leave the few buildings that are left they bulldoze all of them or demo them. and not in small rubble that can be cleared to rebuild, they're left in large chunks so that when the civilians do come back after war they cant rebuild because they can't clear it without heavy machinery. most of the cities wont even be rebuilt, they'll have to make new ones on the unmarred ground surrounding them.

you're literally trying to justify the destruction of a healthy majority of the entire area. by war's end there is really no doubt that 90%+ of the entire territory will have no permanent structures. these numbers aren't from Al Jahazeera, they're uncontested by Israeli govt officials too. at least they're not cowards, they admit what they're doing openly. they call for a scorched earth approach to destroying all of the cities, setting back the population for 15+ years to prevent more attacks. not you tho, you're a coward who is stuck in narratives that are over a year old now. you keep talking about militants, and snipers in buildings. i know that's not true anymore, and so do those on the ground. either you know and are lying or you're just too yellow to admit it to yourself.

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Oct 7 2025 09:13am
On a plus side ChatGPT has moved on from its standard response "It's complicated".
here is a funky map of Gaza over time: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-217c6a28-4a90-4d47-a91c-13113a7dc7db

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the math aint mathing, nor is reality.

Hamas militants numbered what? 20,000 more or less before the Israeli invasion? so 20,000 people used the homes of 2.2 million people, all as military installments? that's 110 buildings per soldier, with zero soldier losses, for the entirety of the war.

and what of the cities that have been leveled AFTER evacuation? is the desolate landscape of Gaza city still hiding soldiers in every building? are the bulldozers actually just military assault vehicles clearing out people?

of course not, there are no people left in the cities. the tunnels if there are any left after bombardment aren't safely tucked under civilian infrastructure, there was no infrastructure left just a few spare buildings left after the bombing. but rather than leave the few buildings that are left they bulldoze all of them or demo them. and not in small rubble that can be cleared to rebuild, they're left in large chunks so that when the civilians do come back after war they cant rebuild because they can't clear it without heavy machinery. most of the cities wont even be rebuilt, they'll have to make new ones on the unmarred ground surrounding them.

you're literally trying to justify the destruction of a healthy majority of the entire area. by war's end there is really no doubt that 90%+ of the entire territory will have no permanent structures. these numbers aren't from Al Jahazeera, they're uncontested by Israeli govt officials too. at least they're not cowards, they admit what they're doing openly. they call for a scorched earth approach to destroying all of the cities, setting back the population for 15+ years to prevent more attacks. not you tho, you're a coward who is stuck in narratives that are over a year old now. you keep talking about militants, and snipers in buildings. i know that's not true anymore, and so do those on the ground. either you know and are lying or you're just too yellow to admit it to yourself.


Irrelevant, they sell Iphone 17 pros and are drowning in luxury goods.
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Oct 7 2025 09:41am
Irrelevant, they sell Iphone 17 pros and are drowning in luxury goods.


hopefully those T-mobile stores aren't in the 85% of Gaza which has been listed as a no-go zone by Israel. So far in no-go zones anyone seen there is killed, and all have been or are being reduced to rubble.

but hey, hamas snipers were seen on a roof of an apartment building on October 12th 2023, so you just can't be too careful.
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Oct 7 2025 12:03pm
hopefully those T-mobile stores aren't in the 85% of Gaza which has been listed as a no-go zone by Israel. So far in no-go zones anyone seen there is killed, and all have been or are being reduced to rubble.

but hey, hamas snipers were seen on a roof of an apartment building on October 12th 2023, so you just can't be too careful.


Imagine you are advancing through an urban warzone when an RPG is fired from towards you. You Survive the initial blast, half of your squad is behind you dealing with a tunnel. Do you push forward with half the squad and sacrifice yourself and others, or call in air support to bring the building down on the enemy? What would you do, Mr. hypocrite?
I know what I would do.

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the math aint mathing, nor is reality.

Hamas militants numbered what? 20,000 more or less before the Israeli invasion? so 20,000 people used the homes of 2.2 million people, all as military installments? that's 110 buildings per soldier, with zero soldier losses, for the entirety of the war.

and what of the cities that have been leveled AFTER evacuation? is the desolate landscape of Gaza city still hiding soldiers in every building? are the bulldozers actually just military assault vehicles clearing out people?

of course not, there are no people left in the cities. the tunnels if there are any left after bombardment aren't safely tucked under civilian infrastructure, there was no infrastructure left just a few spare buildings left after the bombing. but rather than leave the few buildings that are left they bulldoze all of them or demo them. and not in small rubble that can be cleared to rebuild, they're left in large chunks so that when the civilians do come back after war they cant rebuild because they can't clear it without heavy machinery. most of the cities wont even be rebuilt, they'll have to make new ones on the unmarred ground surrounding them.

you're literally trying to justify the destruction of a healthy majority of the entire area. by war's end there is really no doubt that 90%+ of the entire territory will have no permanent structures. these numbers aren't from Al Jahazeera, they're uncontested by Israeli govt officials too. at least they're not cowards, they admit what they're doing openly. they call for a scorched earth approach to destroying all of the cities, setting back the population for 15+ years to prevent more attacks. not you tho, you're a coward who is stuck in narratives that are over a year old now. you keep talking about militants, and snipers in buildings. i know that's not true anymore, and so do those on the ground. either you know and are lying or you're just too yellow to admit it to yourself.


Israel dropped the equivalent of 6 nuclear bombs on Gaza and yet only 60,000 thousand are dead? that doesn't sound like indiscriminate bombing to me. I justify it because it's completely legal, if they use civilian buildings for their war efforts those buildings will fall its simple as that.
If they don't have any other choice but to fight from civilian infrastructure and they don't want it to be destroyed, they can surrender.

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Oct 7 2025 12:20pm
Imagine you are advancing through an urban warzone when an RPG is fired from towards you. You Survive the initial blast, half of your squad is behind you dealing with a tunnel. Do you push forward with half the squad and sacrifice myself and others, or call in air support to bring the building down on the enemy? What would you do, Mr. hypocrite?
I know what I would do.


Israel dropped the equivalent of 6 nuclear bombs on Gaza and yet only 60,000 thousand are dead? that doesn't sound like indiscriminate bombing to me. I justify it because it's completely legal, if they use civilian buildings for their war efforts those buildings will fall its simple as that.
If they don't have any other choice but to fight from civilian infrastructure and they don't want it to be destroyed, they can surrender.


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you're a coward who is stuck in narratives that are over a year old now. you keep talking about militants, and snipers in buildings. i know that's not true anymore, and so do those on the ground. either you know and are lying or you're just too yellow to admit it to yourself.


like i said before. this narrative had some legitimacy in October of 2023, when there was still an active warzone in Gaza city with militants present in civilian infrastructure. that hasn't been true for a year or more. the entire city is now empty, it has zero people in it. 90%+ of the civilian population is displaced and in temporary structures, all inside of the 15% of the territory Israel hasn't labelled a no-go zone. the other 10% of the population who hasn't been "displaced" just simply dont live in the no-go zones.

so the entire country is crowded into 15% of the territory, there are basically no battles still happening outside of booby traps, and the cities are still being raised to the ground.

again, grow a pair and admit, like your govt does, that its no longer about snipers or hamas soldiers hiding in buildings. they're on purpose destroying all of the buildings and roads so that Hamas can't recover in any meaningful way post war. your country is destroying a part of it's own supposed sovereign territory on purpose. they're demolishing the hospitals, houses, schools, mosques, and even churches. all on purpose. be a man and own it.
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Oct 7 2025 12:24pm
like i said before. this narrative had some legitimacy in October of 2023, when there was still an active warzone in Gaza city with militants present in civilian infrastructure. that hasn't been true for a year or more. the entire city is now empty, it has zero people in it. 90%+ of the civilian population is displaced and in temporary structures, all inside of the 15% of the territory Israel hasn't labelled a no-go zone. the other 10% of the population who hasn't been "displaced" just simply dont live in the no-go zones.

so the entire country is crowded into 15% of the territory, there are basically no battles still happening outside of booby traps, and the cities are still being raised to the ground.

again, grow a pair and admit, like your govt does, that its no longer about snipers or hamas soldiers hiding in buildings. they're on purpose destroying all of the buildings and roads so that Hamas can't recover in any meaningful way post war. your country is destroying a part of it's own supposed sovereign territory on purpose. they're demolishing the hospitals, houses, schools, mosques, and even churches. all on purpose. be a man and own it.


Surrender
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