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Oct 7 2025 12:44am
I can't imagine in what universe Russia would directly and overtly attack Poland. It would be one of history's greatest and most suicidal blunders.


here is an example: The US puts a missile platform in Poland, which strikes Moscow. How would Russia Respond?

and dont say that this wont happen as (a) the US has announced it will give Poland deep strike capabilities, (b) they already hit moscow once and (c) Poland is itching to prove themselves, saying this war is our war.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 7 2025 12:45am
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Oct 7 2025 01:44am
Yet they claim the Germans are now good guys because WW2 happened a long time ago but Russians are still bad. Can you explain this?


What is difficult to understand here?
WW2 was 85 years ago, that was 4 generations of people ago.
Its like telling USA is bad because there was a slavery 200 years ago there.
Totally different people nowadays in usa and Germany.
In Russia on the other hand Bucha massacre happened 3 years ago. Putin is a bad guy, just as bad as ussr leaders. Russian people havent changed a lot since ussr. Cold war is back unfortunately. Fortunately this time Russia is smaller than ussr was in the past, so it should be easier than the Cold war your ancestors had in the 20th century.
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Oct 7 2025 01:53am
How did it happen that during the times of the great and terrible USSR and later Russia, the USA, which as you say are totally different, fought against so-called terrorists who then became the much-feared leaders of their own countries and, conversely, invaded others to pursue former freedom fighters who suddenly became terrorists? And I will answer: this is no different. Someone's freedom fighter is a terrorist to others. As for example, the innocently killed, in quotes, intellectual and teacher Stepan Bandera. I would like a monument to him in Warsaw within the framework of the friendship of nations.
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Oct 7 2025 01:57am
What is difficult to understand here?
WW2 was 85 years ago, that was 4 generations of people ago.
Its like telling USA is bad because there was a slavery 200 years ago there.
Totally different people nowadays in usa and Germany.
In Russia on the other hand Bucha massacre happened 3 years ago. Putin is a bad guy, just as bad as ussr leaders. Russian people havent changed a lot since ussr. Cold war is back unfortunately. Fortunately this time Russia is smaller than ussr was in the past, so it should be easier than the Cold war your ancestors had in the 20th century.


Western countries are non-stop engaged in conflicts and NATO is being used as a geo-political battering ram whenever needed. Look up the list of recent conflicts. It's really not hard to understand
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Oct 7 2025 02:05am
well on the basis that he is suggesting Ireland be sanctioned, i guess so ?


Sanctioned isn't a word I would use, "properly taxed" is better.
You are like a rich guy who optimizes his taxes. What you guys are doing is normal, its smart.
Everybody would optimize taxes if he was rich, but on the other hand, the society (in this case other countries) should push for a proper and fair taxation.

I can't imagine in what universe Russia would directly and overtly attack Poland. It would be one of history's greatest and most suicidal blunders.


And why do you think that?
Polish army is only 200k soldiers, Russian is bigger and more veteran.
All I expect from softest western Europe people like ferdia is some crayon drawing "stop the war" on their streets.
Is it gonna put Kremlin on their knees? I dont think so.
So its all about what will USA do (not much, but some air support/bombing lets hope) and whether there will be some people in Europe that actually still have balls.

Germany stated that it would not stand aside if Russia attacked Poland.

Was wollen wir trinken sieben Tage lang...


Source? What exactly did the Germans say?
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Oct 7 2025 02:19am
Not hard to imagine. Ukrainian troops already bounce across the polish border for training and ship in equipment. They aren't at the point of the Pakistani Taliban, doing cross border raids and retreating, but is it imaginable some day?


Obvious huge obstacle: NATO, article 5, possible direct confrontation with USA. Putin has made it very clear that he's not under any wild pretenses of a favorable outcome for Russia in that scenario.

But let's assume the US and NATO are as gay and retarded as their governments are, and do absolutely nothing. Russia is having a tough time cracking the Ukraine nut and Ukraine compared to Poland is a destitute shithole. Poland now has a larger and more dense population, a far larger economy, many years of NATO membership giving them a quantum leap advantage in military tech, close relationships with its European neighbors (Germany who alone if mobilized domestically can outproduce Russia and give Poland anything it needs even if they don't directly intervene). I would say that pre-war, Poland was 50% more formidable of a conquest target than Ukraine. Now it's far more than that, mostly due to Ukraine having been ground down a good bit and Poland having built up. Added to all that, Russia doesn't even have a flimsy claim to Polish territory as it kinda-sorta did with Crimea and Donbass, and there is a centuries-old hatred/rivalry between Poles and Rus and not between Ukrainians and Rus (until now I guess)

edit - yes the Ukrainian military is currently stronger than Poland's only because of years of virtually full mobilization and battle experience. Poland just has a higher power ceiling and would be a much bigger nut to crack in the same situation. It is important to note that Russia also has all that build-up and battle experience which makes this comparison kinda null

Sure everyone can quote me but I don't think Putin's regime is so foolish.

This post was edited by Thebarba on Oct 7 2025 02:30am
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Oct 7 2025 02:26am
Sanctioned isn't a word I would use, "properly taxed" is better.
You are like a rich guy who optimizes his taxes. What you guys are doing is normal, its smart.
Everybody would optimize taxes if he was rich, but on the other hand, the society (in this case other countries) should push for a proper and fair taxation.



And why do you think that?
Polish army is only 200k soldiers, Russian is bigger and more veteran.
All I expect from softest western Europe people like ferdia is some crayon drawing "stop the war" on their streets.
Is it gonna put Kremlin on their knees? I dont think so.
So its all about what will USA do (not much, but some air support/bombing lets hope) and whether there will be some people in Europe that actually still have balls.



Source? What exactly did the Germans say?


There you go

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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Oct 7 2025 02:32am
This focused NATO aggression is weakened

Just a few drones in Denmark, Poland and Germany force these Euro pants pissers to spread their defenses.



Probably some of those drones are from NATO itself
Those dogs do everything to fear their own population, to make them pay, pay your kapital coins and we keep you save, now back to work slaves
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Oct 7 2025 03:35am
You are a bit of a contradiction. It is not OK for Palestinians to chant "From the river to the sea", but its OK for Israeli's to chant it. Its not OK for Russia to kill alot of People but its OK for the US or Israel to kill a lot of people. You say the Nazi's are bad but support Ukrainian Far Right Supremacist leaders. You say you are not racist but then speak about the problems associated with Africans moving to Poland and diluting the gene-pool. You attack Ireland for not pulling its weight when in fact it is Poland that is receiving all the European handouts. You say I am soft, weak etc. while you run away from direct questions. Your principles are flexible - it all depends on who is speaking.

Lets address your world view - Europe needs to arm itself to the teeth, completely break away from Russia, any nation that refuses to come along must be punished and we should start bombing Russia, noting that your leaders have said this war is our war. So how does this end? Russia's unconditional surrender? Retaking all of Ukraine's land including Crimea? The execution of Putin, just as with Saddam Hussein? Permanent occupation of Russia? Bomb all the hospitals, schools, flatten the country? the dismantling of Russia into smaller states? Install a Pro Western Government ? What's the process for dismantling Russia's 5000 nukes?

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 7 2025 03:45am
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Oct 7 2025 03:40am
^Ironfister You are a bit of a contradiction. It is not OK for Palestinians to chant "From the river to the sea", but its OK for Israeli's to chant it. Its not OK for Russia to kill alot of People but its OK for the US or Israel to kill a lot of people. You say the Nazi's are bad but support Ukrainian Far Right Supremacist leaders. You say you are not racist but then speak about the problems associated with Africans moving to Poland and diluting the gene-pool. You attack Ireland for not pulling its weight when in fact it is Poland that is receiving all the European handouts. You say I am soft, weak etc. while you run away from direct questions. Your principles are flexible - it all depends on who is speaking.

Lets address your world view - Europe needs to arm itself to the teeth, completely break away from Russia, any nation that refuses to come along must be punished and we should start bombing Russia, noting that your leaders have said this war is our war. So how does this end? Russia's unconditional surrender? Retaking all of Ukraine's land including Crimea? The execution of Putin, just as with Saddam Hussein? Permanent occupation of Russia? the dismantling of Russia into smaller states?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Powers_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War
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