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Sep 30 2025 11:19am
I’m not "MAGA" nor am I American. He asked for the relationship between gun ownership and homicides at large, not gun homicides specifically.


The only reason why one would find this relevant is under the assumption that gun ownership will lower non-gun related homicides at a significant level compared to the gun related homicides. You can find this with ease by comparing total homicide related mortality in the US with the study I have provided - a ridiculous thing to ask, because it begins with a ridiculous assumption.
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Sep 30 2025 11:22am
Since you’re incapable of doing research and just like to make unsubstantiated claims. Here’s a study about how a police presence reduces crime. This was done AT A SCHOOL by the way.

https://publicsafety.jhu.edu/assets/uploads/sites/9/2024/12/effect_of_privately_provided_police_services_on_crime.pdf


A wild claim, after I have just provided evidence where the rest, as of yet, had not. But I am used to jsp dialogue beginning and ending with an ad hominem. TiStuff would be particularly proud of this style of conversating.
Furthermore, I have literally added in my first post when I replied to your suggestion, that it is a personal opinion I could not be arsed to back up with evidence, because the burden of proof did not lie with me. Only now that I mention it a second time, suddenly you attack me as "incapable of doing research and make unsubstantiated claims". By the way, how many articles have you published, since you do research? >.>
Can you provide a PMID or DOI instead of a pdf link if you wish to cite studies?
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Sep 30 2025 11:31am
A wild claim, after I have just provided evidence where the rest, as of yet, had not. But I am used to jsp dialogue beginning and ending with an ad hominem. TiStuff would be particularly proud of this style of conversating.
Furthermore, I have literally added in my first post when I replied to your suggestion, that it is a personal opinion I could not be arsed to back up with evidence, because the burden of proof did not lie with me. Only now that I mention it a second time, suddenly you attack me as "incapable of doing research and make unsubstantiated claims". By the way, how many articles have you published, since you do research? >.>
Can you provide a PMID or DOI instead of a pdf link if you wish to cite studies?


Instead of all this BS flailing, you can just agree that if you want to save the lives of children, you should probably make an attempt. Democrats are all talk and no action - all you people do is “yeah but” everyone into oblivion.

Y’all did the same stuff with the border, nothing but stubbornness and “yeah but”. Then you let the new president come in and snap his fingers and clean it up overnight and get all the credit.

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The only reason why one would find this relevant is under the assumption that gun ownership will lower non-gun related homicides at a significant level compared to the gun related homicides. You can find this with ease by comparing total homicide related mortality in the US with the study I have provided - a ridiculous thing to ask, because it begins with a ridiculous assumption.


Don’t get pissy because you didn’t understand his initial request and wasted your time on a long-winded post. It would be relevant to see if gun ownership leads to more violence in general, not just gun violence, because obviously it does. Do you need a peer-reviewed study to figure out there are more car crashes in the US than there are in Nauru?

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Don’t get pissy because you didn’t understand his initial request and wasted your time on a long-winded post. It would be relevant to see if gun ownership leads to more violence in general, not just gun violence, because obviously it does. Do you need a peer-reviewed study to figure out there are more car crashes in the US than there are in Nauru?


For the record. New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the USA and some of the loosest gun laws. NH actually ranks high among the safest European countries.
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Sep 30 2025 11:38am
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/DEE0cVs2aF

The top USA states here - NH, Maine, Vermont, and Idaho are all gun friendly.

I’m sure you’ll all have an issue with this, democrats hate factual data unless it supports their agenda.

Bring on the “yeah but”

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The top USA states here - NH, Maine, Vermont, and Idaho


The 5 least diverse states in the United States, according to a 2025 WalletHub report, are West Virginia, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Montana.
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The 5 least diverse states in the United States, according to a 2025 WalletHub report, are West Virginia, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Montana.


So are you suggesting that diversity causes violence?
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So are you suggesting that diversity causes violence?


The rates of violent crimes in the US are entirely stratified by race and not any other social metric- like gun ownership, poverty, policing, social services, etc
Jackson Mississippi reached a 104 per 100k homicide rate in 2021 with a 79% black 16% white population average income $27k. South Burlington Vermont had 0.00 homicide rate in the same year with an 85% white, 8% asian, 1% black population average income $51k. And there were also zero murders in Long Beach Mississippi in 2021, a similarly sized city with a 77% white, 8% black population with average income $35k. You can compare and contrast demographics in whatever random locations its always going to boil down to race, rates are always black >>>>> hispanic >> white > asian/islander
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So are you suggesting that diversity causes violence?


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