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Sep 29 2025 10:54pm
pearl-clutching whining


you said it was racist, but you didn't say it was incorrect :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Sep 29 2025 11:34pm
From an interview with a local politician who had gone door to door canvassing and had just talked to the guy weeks earlier, it turns out he was a particularly psychotic anti-mormon zealot.
It was just pure hatred for mormonism (?)
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2025/09/29/thomas-jacob-sanford-michigan-shooting-suspect-anti-lds-tirade/86415139007/


I don't really have anti-mormonism on my bingo card so I'm not sure its a round peg you can fit into square holes of ideologies.
Dude just had some very serious animus towards the LDS church for some unclear reason


I like how suddenly it is very important for Goom to be exact on why the murderer killed somebody instead of just blaming it on politics (hint: was a male loser as always, this time of the MAGA kind).

So right wing terrorism is in the lead again, is MAGA now also a terrorist organization?
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Sep 30 2025 12:42am
I like how suddenly it is very important for Goom to be exact on why the murderer killed somebody instead of just blaming it on politics (hint: was a male loser as always, this time of the MAGA kind)


Yes its suddenly very important and I haven't consistently posted about every such event that we should collect the facts before jumping to conclusions. And when a trans gunman kills christian kids I just preemptively blame Obama because he's black, instead of delving into the gunman's schizo writings and social media looking for clues to reconstruct what happened accurately. Did I mention Obama is black?
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Sep 30 2025 02:06am
Yes its suddenly very important and I haven't consistently posted about every such event that we should collect the facts before jumping to conclusions. And when a trans gunman kills christian kids I just preemptively blame Obama because he's black, instead of delving into the gunman's schizo writings and social media looking for clues to reconstruct what happened accurately. Did I mention Obama is black?


A right wing loser killed a bunch of religious people in a church. He did it because he hated them.

Last time a "leftie" loser killed a right wing podcaster he hated your takeaway was not that losers full of hatred are the problem, but leftists are. You are not that stupid so why are you disingenious?

Thing is I can perfectly predict that it's a male loser every time since that is what the data says. You have to apply two different measures because leftwing violence fits your agenda and right wing violence does not, so you look like a hypocrite.

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Sep 30 2025 02:15am
Most of you don't understand how mormon communities function.
They are like a secret society, if you're not part of their community you're nothing.
Mormons have even been known to push businesses and families out who don't join.

The fact at this guy was a veteran and life long hunter,
only 4 dead and 8 injured doesn't add up to how you think about this.
You also can't apply rational logic to this.

I don't think this was political, I think this was internal mormon conflict.
The feds won't get the full truth from these people.

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please don't misconstrue my words as derogatory, I'm not well spoken.
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Sep 30 2025 04:05am
Speaking sincerely, there is a difference here between Decarlos Brown stabbing Iryna Zarutska, the gay furry shooting Charlie Kirk, and this guy.

Decarlos Brown: Black man stabbed random white person for no reason other than racial hatred. Huge rap sheet coming into it, conclusion is infallible - racial hate crime. Whether or not this person is a registered Democrat is irrelevant in this case. Effect: More black fatigue. However, anti-white hatred is a cornerstone of left-wing ideology. At the very least, race-hustling is a left-wing staple tactic. It is a straight-forward matter to connect this crime to the entire left-wing pantheon.

Gay furry tranny lover shooting Charlie Kirk: Left a hell of a paper trail that makes his upbringing, ideology, and intentions clear beyond a shadow of a doubt. He hated right-wing people, probably hated his MAGA family, has been a loser shut-in and thus lost touch with any moral grounding he ever had, yet still had a decent, at least human-level IQ unlike Iryna's killer. Saw an opportunity to chop off the head of the snake, Charlie who was arguably in the top 3 political influencers in the country, maybe the top 1 or 2 on the right wing. Took the shot. Premeditated, targeted the right wing. Effect: Young men who love furries/trannies should probably be met with a jaundiced eye. Similar to Iryna, let's connect this tragedy to the leftie zeitgeist: Fascists and Nazis need to be punched, and anyone to the left of Bill Maher is automatically a fascist/Nazi. Therefore, the left celebrates Kirk's demise, it lines up with the bread and butter of their ideology - punch a nazi.

Random mentally ill(?) marine killing mormons: From what little we know, how exactly would intra-faith conflicts among Mormons constitute a staple of Right-wing ideology? To me, there's absolutely no way to connect it to the right-wing zeitgeist. None, zero. Murdering religious people in a religious temple? Not right-wing. Murdering mormons? Not right wing. Did I miss anything? Was the dude blowing up an abortion clinic? Killing illegals extra-judiciously at the southern border? Killing homeless drug addicts? Targeting non-whites in some way? No, no, no, and no. Absolutely nothing right-wing about this guy other than, supposedly, being a registered Republican.

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Speaking sincerely, there is a difference here between Decarlos Brown stabbing Iryna Zarutska, the gay furry shooting Charlie Kirk, and this guy.

Decarlos Brown: Black man stabbed random white person for no reason other than racial hatred. Huge rap sheet coming into it, conclusion is infallible - racial hate crime. Whether or not this person is a registered Democrat is irrelevant in this case. Effect: More black fatigue. However, anti-white hatred is a cornerstone of left-wing ideology. At the very least, race-hustling is a left-wing staple tactic. It is a straight-forward matter to connect this crime to the entire left-wing pantheon.

Gay furry tranny lover shooting Charlie Kirk: Left a hell of a paper trail that makes his upbringing, ideology, and intentions clear beyond a shadow of a doubt. He hated right-wing people, probably hated his MAGA family, has been a loser shut-in and thus lost touch with any moral grounding he ever had, yet still had a decent, at least human-level IQ unlike Iryna's killer. Saw an opportunity to chop off the head of the snake, Charlie who was arguably in the top 3 political influencers in the country, maybe the top 1 or 2 on the right wing. Took the shot. Premeditated, targeted the right wing. Effect: Young men who love furries/trannies should probably be met with a jaundiced eye. Similar to Iryna, let's connect this tragedy to the leftie zeitgeist: Fascists and Nazis need to be punched, and anyone to the left of Bill Maher is automatically a fascist/Nazi. Therefore, the left celebrates Kirk's demise, it lines up with the bread and butter of their ideology - punch a nazi.

Random mentally ill(?) marine killing mormons: From what little we know, how exactly would intra-faith conflicts among Mormons constitute a staple of Right-wing ideology? To me, there's absolutely no way to connect it to the right-wing zeitgeist. None, zero. Murdering religious people in a religious temple? Not right-wing. Murdering mormons? Not right wing. Did I miss anything? Was the dude blowing up an abortion clinic? Killing illegals extra-judiciously at the southern border? Killing homeless drug addicts? Targeting non-whites in some way? No, no, no, and no. Absolutely nothing right-wing about this guy other than, supposedly, being a registered Republican.


Ah yes whenever someone who is not MAGA kills somebody it's due to violent rheotric and hatred of the right by the left but if a MAGA loser kills somebody they are mentally ill. I know you are not super sharp but even you should see the irony.
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Sep 30 2025 04:43am
A right wing loser killed a bunch of religious people in a church. He did it because he hated them.

Last time a "leftie" loser killed a right wing podcaster he hated your takeaway was not that losers full of hatred are the problem, but leftists are. You are not that stupid so why are you disingenious?

Thing is I can perfectly predict that it's a male loser every time since that is what the data says. You have to apply two different measures because leftwing violence fits your agenda and right wing violence does not, so you look like a hypocrite.


Lets be 'ingenious' and lay out in detail the kind of events you are trying to compare

The left wing spends years demonizing Charlie Kirk and calling him a fascist and nazi, with numerous assaults on his tablers at college campuses, organized groups trying to disrupt or intimidate or threaten him, all kinds of extremist rhetoric directed at him to justify attacking him- and a guy cites antifa and those exact liberal talking points while assassinating him in an overt act of political violence.
The left wing spends years making the case that healthcare funding is life or death and fatalist and any opposition to their policies is murder, demonizing the republican obstruction to the ACA. A left wing guy who worked as a Bernie staffer goes out and tries to gun down Republican congressmen at a baseball field in virginia while shouting "This is for healthcare"
The left wing spends years demonizing ICE agents and declaring that enforcing our immigration law is fascist and those who do it are nazis, with democratic politicians leading riots against ICE agents and openly antagonizing and threatening them and trying to intimidate them. They are subjected to orders of magnitude more threats and violence by left-wingers, eventually leading to attempted sniper attacks on multiple occasions.

and lets compare this to

The right wing spends years courting mormons and folding them into the MAGA movement until they are all chummy friends, with Mormons being overwhelming a MAGA bloc and in alignment with Trump. The republicans frequently make accommodations for them and don't tolerate any anti-mormon bigotry in their party, which frankly is so uncommon and unheard of that its not actually recognized as a 'thing'. Then one random right-wing guy with an insane grudge against Mormons goes out and kills them, which is still pretty inexplicable to anyone and nobody can really cite why he hated Mormons, just that he did.

Do you really need the difference explained?
Give you a hint, the guys who murdered jews in a firebomb attack, murdered jewish staffers in a shooting and did all other sorts of left-wing anti-semitic violence: Were not being radicalized by AIPAC talking points or motivated by the ADL's calls to action.
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Sep 30 2025 04:47am
I know you are not super sharp but even you should see the irony.


Wow, mean! :(

I made a pretty good point and it flew right over your head. You insulting my intelligence is the irony.

Ah yes whenever someone who is not MAGA kills somebody it's due to violent rheotric and hatred of the right by the left but if a MAGA loser kills somebody they are mentally ill.


That's not what I said or even implied. You're strawmanning. Let me slow it down for you. 3 murders, 2 who are nominally left wing, 1 nominally right wing. Left wing murders line up with Democrat and left-wing ideology and culture. For the record, all 3 of these guys are mentally ill.

-Left wingers hate white people, so a black dude killed a white lady. Politics, ideology, and motive for murder are in alignment.
-Left wingers hate right-wing politicians and influencers, "nazis/fascists" so a gay furry tranny lover killed a prominent right-wing influencer. Politics, ideology, and motive for murder are in alignment.
-Right wingers hate... Mormons? Something's not right here.

The mormon killer's murders did not at all line up with right-wing ideology and culture. As I said (did you even read it?) He wasn't killing abortion doctors or furries or drug addicts or illegals. Those would be right-wing murders. He killed Mormons. If anything that's yet another left-wing murder. If you can't understand that analogy and cannot see past the supposed party affiliation, it's like I'm talking to a dog or a small child here.

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Wow, mean! :(

I made a pretty good point and it flew right over your head. You insulting my intelligence is the irony.



That's not what I said or even implied. You're strawmanning. Let me slow it down for you. 3 murders, 2 who are nominally left wing, 1 nominally right wing. Left wing murders line up with Democrat and left-wing ideology and culture. For the record, all 3 of these guys are mentally ill.

-Left wingers hate white people, so a black dude killed a white lady. Politics, ideology, and motive for murder are in alignment.
-Left wingers hate right-wing politicians and influencers, "nazis/fascists" so a gay furry tranny lover killed a prominent right-wing influencer. Politics, ideology, and motive for murder are in alignment.
-Right wingers hate... Mormons? Something's not right here.

The mormon killer's murders did not at all line up with right-wing ideology and culture. As I said (did you even read it?) He wasn't killing abortion doctors or furries or drug addicts or illegals. Those would be right-wing murders. He killed Mormons. If anything that's yet another left-wing murder. If you can't understand that analogy and cannot see past the supposed party affiliation, it's like I'm talking to a dog or a small child here.


We reached max level mental gymnastics, good job.

If you actually cared to look at data right wing violence is in general not well targetted, while leftwing violence is mostly against right wing people and police - make of that what you will.

By your logic, we should count black on black crime as right wing - maybe this can help you identify why this is fucking idiotic.
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