The European land grabbing jew doesn't understand anyone will want to kill them for stealing land.

But it doesn't matter, they'll have to go back to Europe soon.

Israel has the right to exist!

completely agree! not sure, does Palestine have a right to exist too ?

In the meantime... The (Tony) Blair Plan (total crack pot idea but its being talked about at the moment):

What is the “Blair Plan”

“Blair Plan” refers to a proposal, largely attributed to Tony Blair (former UK PM, now head of the Tony Blair Institute), for how Gaza should be governed and reconstructed after the current conflict (“post-war Gaza”). Key elements reportedly include:

Gaza International Transitional Authority (GITA)

A transitional governing body for Gaza during the post-war period. It would be established via a UN Security Council resolution. It would include both Palestinians and international figures, with strong Muslim representation, to enhance regional legitimacy.

“Gaza for Gazans” principle

The plan reportedly insists that any reconstruction and governance does not involve mass displacement of Gaza’s inhabitants. Gazans are to stay in Gaza. Protection of property rights (a “Property Rights Preservation Unit”) is part of the proposal. Day-after / Transitional Phase. The plan is sometimes described as a “day-after” blueprint: what happens immediately after major hostilities cease. It involves setting up oversight/governance to handle governance, security, infrastructure, reconstruction, etc., until longer-term political arrangements are possible.

Regional / International involvement and funding

To succeed, the plan depends on buy-in from regional Arab states, international actors, and multilateral institutions. The idea is that reconstruction of Gaza will be massive, needing large scale investment and international oversight. Controversies, Criticism & Open Questions - While the key features are as above, there are many controversies, uncertainties, and criticisms around the “Blair Plan” or related proposals. Some of the issues include: Claims of forced displacement / “resettlement”. Some versions, or plans associated with the idea, have been interpreted as proposing relocating a large number of Palestinians from Gaza (even suggestions ca. “half a million”) or turning Gaza into something like a “resort zone” (e.g. “Trump Riviera”). However, Blair’s team has publicly denied that the plan involves forced displacement, and insists that “Gaza for Gazans” is a red line. Ambiguity over who runs things and for how long The transitional authority (GITA) is proposed, but the exact scope of its powers, oversight, composition, and duration are not fully specified in what’s been leaked or reported.

Security issues
Security (especially concerning Israel’s security concerns, Hamas, and other armed groups) is a major element, but how that is handled in a transitional authority, how much control Israel retains (or gives up), etc., are unclear or contested. Legal, moral, political concerns - Some critics argue parts of the leaked “Great Trust” / “Gaza Riviera” proposals verge on proposals for ethnic cleansing, or at least forceful displacement, which would have grave legal and ethical implications. Uncertainty as to official endorsement and details. Many of the ideas are reported or “leaked”, and it is not completely clear which version (if any) has been agreed, which components are still under discussion, and which are still speculation.
The Jewish Chronicle

Status / Where It Stands

The plan has been presented by Blair (or his institute) to various international actors including the U.S. administration. Some reports say Trump has expressed support or instructed Blair to build international/regional buy-in. But as of now, no full, officially published, detailed agreement is in place. Many of the proposals are still being discussed.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 25 2025 01:01pm

It already exists it called jordan

Claiming “Jordan is Palestine” is like claiming “Ireland is Britain.” How would Jewish Israelis feel if the world said their state has no right to exist and should just be folded into another country? However JSP is a free and open society, so you do you!

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 26 2025 02:51am

The British Mandate of Palestine originally included both the land west of the Jordan River (today Israel, Judea and Samaria, and Gaza) and the land east of the Jordan River (today Jordan). In 1921, 1922, the British separated the eastern part, creating Transjordan under Emir Abdullah, which was about 77% of the Mandate territory. What remained west of the Jordan was designated for the Jewish national home. Later, through policies such as the 1939 White Paper, the British further restricted Jewish rights and immigration, which the Jewish community saw as a betrayal. Finally, in 1947, the UN proposed another partition of the land west of the Jordan, which the Jewish leadership accepted but the Arab leadership rejected - Prove me wrong

This post was edited by Many_Names on Sep 26 2025 04:11am

sure, here we go:

Just because Palestine doesn’t appear on most maps today doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Palestinians exist, they have a history, and international law recognizes their right to a state — like Taiwan or Northern Ireland, whose identities aren’t erased by borders. The British Mandate and the UN drew lines and imposed their will, while early Zionist rhetoric even called it “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Their maps and words created a mess, but they never erased the Palestinians — something Israel is still trying to do 70 years later.

This doesnt prove anything
Palestinians. Didnt have any identity until 1964, they were simply Arabs.
There are 2 countries on this land one is Jewish and one is Arab if they dont want to live in the Jewish state they can go and live in the Arab one where they really belong.


This post was edited by Many_Names on Sep 26 2025 05:46am

This is an old argument. lets stop here for today (unless you want me to respond).

Palestinians exist as a people today and that’s not in dispute. But historically, the British Mandate, its division into Transjordan, the Jewish National Home in the west, and the rejection of partition in 1947 are established facts. Those facts stand regardless of modern national identities