Quote (fredfury @ Sep 22 2025 05:11pm)

Hardcore or SC? If hardcore, you’re living to fight another day so I would cube them. If SC then ride it out.

Quote (Transparentsin @ Sep 22 2025 05:59pm)

I'd cube them, makes running any char far better.

Quote (Tkamp @ Sep 22 2025 09:00pm)

Agreed on softcore comment. Cta doesn't matter as much so nn ohms.

If you are gonna make a barb and 2x grief then you need those Los....

So it really depends on what you plan to do from here

I had this dilemma on hardcore and made enigma for hammerdin so I could farm chaos safely and run keys safely.

Quote (Pharaohmon @ Sep 23 2025 09:06am)

Do another 500 and then decide after

Quote (Vismajor @ Sep 23 2025 12:29pm)

Nah its too many runes. Keep gunning it

Quote (MagillaGorilla @ Sep 23 2025 08:53pm)

What are you gonna do with 4 surs anyway? Cube them and get that enigma!!!! If you find a jah or a Ber right afterwards, GREAT!!!! Use em for something else.

Quote (cky24 @ Sep 24 2025 09:35pm)

Depends on your plan and situation but I ran into this same thing a while back and and I say go ahead and get enigma.

If you find Jah afterwards, great because you’ll probably want a second enigma at some point anyways, and if you find a Ber or two after then awesome because that’s another enigma or a step closer to Infinity

My only hesitation is withholding the Ohm(s) for CTA. Other than that, roll those runes. If you have a few treachery or duriels laying around then no need the Lo for fort and I use a unique heavens might that I MF’d on my smiter that does fine in uber so no need Lo for Grief if that’s a concern and you have a heavens might laying around

Quote (StoreFarmand @ Sep 25 2025 02:14pm)

Thanks all for input... Really wanted to find that stupid ber, and i've done 1500 extra runs since my question, however still no ber :D Found sur, lo and ohm since... not much but yeah... will ride another 500-1500 games then im done for sure!