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Sep 23 2025 08:51pm
Looking to have others read and or test this build and provide feedback. I’ve been playing around with this a lot. It’s been very effective and efficient so far, but I haven’t been to all the TZs. Levels 90-94 have been me running hostng Baal and chaos runs, with occasional TZs. I’m not completely done fine tuning or testing. There are still plenty of things I just haven’t been able to test because of time or items I don’t have. But this is how it’s going right now:

Lvl 94
7.7k CS
3k LF
3.2k Life

Goal:
Meet specific breakpoints to greatly improve playability, movement, survivability AND make enough damage and -LR to have a fast kill speed AND enough h / mana regen / leech to never worry about potions.

Breakpoints:
52% FHR
68% FCR
52% IAS - I think this is my target? I haven’t fully figured out IAS calculations


Gear:
Griffons (+1 skill, FCR, -LR, socket) (I use a 15 IAS / 3 MAEK jewel in mine)
Enigma (+2 skills, Teleport, STR)
Razor tail (Pierce, Dex)
T-Strokes (or up’s Titans)
Phoenix shield (Redemption)
2/20 fcr Amulet (+2 skills, FCR, stats, res)
Mage fist (FCR, mana regen)
Raven Frost (CBF, Dex)
10 fcr, Mana Leech / MAEK, stats, res)
Shadow Dancers (FRW, FHR, Dex)
Swap (CTA/Spirit)

Merc (Act 1 Frozen Arrow):
Faith Bow (Fanatacism)
Treachery (IAS, Fade)
Cure (Cleansing)

Inventory:
Javazon GCs (Life, FRW, FHR, stats) (mine are plain)
Small charms (enough FHR charms to get to 52% FHR. Then Life, res)
Crack of the Heavans
Anni
Torch


Hear me out:
-30% IAS from gear before Fanaticism from Merc, attack speed gets you swinging Charged Strike and flingin Lightning Fury with a quickness
-75% FCR from gear lets you teleport fast enough to keep up in TZ
-52% FHR combined plus Dodge, Avoid, Evade means if I ever do get hit, I’m back in the fight or able to get away
-40% LR plus Lightning Sunder. I haven’t found a Lightning Immune monster I haven’t been able to kill fast. Maybe I’ve been lucky
-Redemption Aura means I never use potions. Ever
-Fanatacism from Merc gives me good attack speed. Her freezing arrows and Cleansing aura gives me great survivavulity. I do not need her to be a significant source of damage.

-Titans are nice for FRW, +Amazon skills help for Valkyrie and all the Passive skills, Replenish Inventory etc but don’t have any -LR or IAS. Without Fanatacism, you definitely need IAS on gloves or amulet which means you’re losing out on mobility from reduced FCR. (I have not tested attack speed with Titans without having a 15 IAS jewel in griffons to know for sure if necessary. And i haven’t looked into what the IAS bonus from lvl 15 Merc Fanaticism is… feel free to comment a link)
-T-Strokes are nice for skills, DMG, IAS, -LR. Personally I want to test a non-eth up’d titans with a 5/5 facet in my Griffons instead of 15/3 jewel to test the IAS and kill speed with -10% less LR. Just haven’t tested it, yet.


I’m sure there’s more. I really like the build so far, but open to suggestions to make it better. It’s nice not being a cookie cutter META build, but still wrecking TZ and chaos, I haven’t died yet…. So it’s working. But can it work better without infinity and without losing FCR or IAS?

Flame me.

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Sep 24 2025 01:06am
i don't rly like to give an opinion on a build i haven't tested out myself but i just can't imagine this is the ultimate one.

no infinity means you are missing -17 LR on lightning immunes. that's more than 3 facets and hard to pass up. with perf griffons + tstrokes light immunes would still be at 60% LR. the goal of the ultimate pvm java should be reach max ias/fcr BPs and possibly still one- or twoshot lightning immunes even on p8.
i highly doubt your setup can do this even without doing any testing.
i like the idea of using a faith merc because 30 ias (tstrokes + ias jewel in griffons) is enoug to reach max ias BP. but like i said you will lose the - LR from infinity and that's too good to pass up IMO.

also phoenix is kind of a noob trap. a properly built java does not need redemption to keep up mana bubble. in your setup it's actually quite okay because you still reach max ias and 68 fcr BP. but then why not use spirit? you would reach next higher (99) fcr BP too and get 2 more skills --> more dmg.
silks instead of shadow dancers for 5 maek, 15 ias/3 maek jewel in griffons, soj instead of your fcr ring and i bet you could keep your mana up without phoenix. TBH... that build doesn't look so bad.
still... the problem with no infinity remains which (sry for repeating) is too hard to pass up IMO.

the following setup reaches 95 ias/99 fcr too while not giving up infinity:

griffons cham
2/19 fcr ammy
tstrokes
enigma
4 os monarch with 2 x 15 ias/3 maek and 2 x 15 ias/15 all res
3/20 gloves
razortail
silks
2 x 10 fcr ring

you tele on swap with CTA + spirit

merc:
cure or FF
infinity
coh

ofc this would be very expensive depending on how good your ammy and the extra fcr ring would be. this is why pretty much everybody goes with the 55 ias/68 fcr infinity build.
i'm not saying your build is bad. it definitely works on p8 but i would bet it is a bit slower than the 55/68 meta build everyone is using due to no infinity while also more expensive.
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Sep 24 2025 01:18am
that's an extremely bad and needlessly convoluted build

55 ias 68 fcr build:
eth titans / tstroke
griffon ias jewel / griffon rbf
spirit monarch
eni low str light armor
2/20 ml adds gloves
razortail
silkweaves/aldur/rare boots
highlord
fcr ml mana ring + raven

torch anni skillers res scs

infy FF coh merc

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Sep 24 2025 07:23am
i don't rly like to give an opinion on a build i haven't tested out myself but i just can't imagine this is the ultimate one.

no infinity means you are missing -17 LR on lightning immunes. that's more than 3 facets and hard to pass up. with perf griffons + tstrokes light immunes would still be at 60% LR. the goal of the ultimate pvm java should be reach max ias/fcr BPs and possibly still one- or twoshot lightning immunes even on p8.
i highly doubt your setup can do this even without doing any testing.
i like the idea of using a faith merc because 30 ias (tstrokes + ias jewel in griffons) is enoug to reach max ias BP. but like i said you will lose the - LR from infinity and that's too good to pass up IMO.

also phoenix is kind of a noob trap. a properly built java does not need redemption to keep up mana bubble. in your setup it's actually quite okay because you still reach max ias and 68 fcr BP. but then why not use spirit? you would reach next higher (99) fcr BP too and get 2 more skills --> more dmg.
silks instead of shadow dancers for 5 maek, 15 ias/3 maek jewel in griffons, soj instead of your fcr ring and i bet you could keep your mana up without phoenix. TBH... that build doesn't look so bad.
still... the problem with no infinity remains which (sry for repeating) is too hard to pass up IMO.

the following setup reaches 95 ias/99 fcr too while not giving up infinity:

griffons cham
2/19 fcr ammy
tstrokes
enigma
4 os monarch with 2 x 15 ias/3 maek and 2 x 15 ias/15 all res
3/20 gloves
razortail
silks
2 x 10 fcr ring

you tele on swap with CTA + spirit

merc:
cure or FF
infinity
coh

ofc this would be very expensive depending on how good your ammy and the extra fcr ring would be. this is why pretty much everybody goes with the 55 ias/68 fcr infinity build.
i'm not saying your build is bad. it definitely works on p8 but i would bet it is a bit slower than the 55/68 meta build everyone is using due to no infinity while also more expensive.


I appreciate your feedback a lot. I fall to the noob trap phoenix because I can’t keep up with mana. Idk why… silk weaves, 15/3 jewel, maek on ring and gloves I still can’t keep it full

That’s largely what got me scrambling to achieve the breakpoints with phoenix
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Sep 24 2025 07:35am
How to improve your current build :

Infinity merc >>> faith
Get 55 ias from items (gloves, HL, ias jewel in griff or tstrokes)

Spirit >>> phoenix
Every single mod on spirit is exactly what you need. Phoenix is just an extremely bad way to fix problems that come from bad javazon builds.

Those 2 adaptations will require optimizing other gear choice accordingly… gloves, amy, boots, charms.
Get rid of all the fhr you stacked, you get 55 already from spirit.
Fix your light/fire res and mana sustain with scs, gloves, boots slots.

Overall this will give you:
More dmg (more skills, more light pen)
More base mana (for tele and regen)
More reliable mana sustain (redemption doesn’t work vs bosses and can compete against other redemption auras)
More tankyness (more res, more life, more mdr, higher skills = more dodge)

You lose:
Nothing
Or… well… you lose that redemption aura visual at your feet screaming “hey ima a javanoob!”

Dolphy already posted the full standard build.
Just follow that and you’ll see big improvements in every aspect.
There’s a reason 99% of players use that.
And the 1% left debating that 99/95 ultra expensive setup is better have yet to learn that they just lose dmg (cuz pierce is among the most important stat) and QoL (much more repair needed, slower self-rep, faster attacks for less dps = faster jav depletion, less frw, less fhr).

If you have unlimited budget, the true best setup is 99fcr/55ias.
This allows you to keep 100% pierce (you can’t get 99/95 using razor) and reaching 1 frame faster tele with all the advantages you normally have on the standard build.
But you’ll need 3 pairs of gfg rare 4/40/self-rep/++ javs
And the self-rep needs to be over 10s, not 20s, else it’s never gonna be enough.

BiS setup for unlimited budget :
3x gfg 4/40 javs (2 in cube)
Griff cham
Enigma
Razor
Spirit 35
2jav/20ias gloves (res, stats, leech, maek)
2/19fcr amy (res, stats, leech, life, mana)
2x fcr rings (res, stats, leech, life, mana)
Gg res boots, or silk if you don’t have enough sustain from rings/amy/gloves/javs
Torch, anni, sunder, jav skillers (life or frw), scs to fix your res if needed (with life or frw)
Infinity merc, always. FF if needed, else Cure.

Alternatively, to reach 99/55, you could:
Replace cham by 15/3maek
Use raven
Replace 2/20 gloves by mage/trang
This would give you 55ias and 10fcr over the 99bp, so you could replace either the 2/19 amy by a better 2/10 rare, or the 10fcr ring by a better no-fcr rare ring or even soj.
Easier to achieve but potentially less res/sustain overall.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Sep 24 2025 07:42am
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Sep 25 2025 02:58am
And the 1% left debating that 99/95 ultra expensive setup is better have yet to learn that they just lose dmg (cuz pierce is among the most important stat) and QoL (much more repair needed, slower self-rep, faster attacks for less dps = faster jav depletion, less frw, less fhr)..


i don't know how often i need to repeat this. you don't lose pierce at all. for 95/99 setup you tele on switch with spirit and use 4 os monarch in main... and obviously you also use razor for 100 pierce!
i know nobody on jsp believes me but 95/99 setup IS the fastest if properly built. i have tested a lot of different setups for quite a while with hero editor.
and sry for repeating but ofc it's only a few % faster than the typical 55/68 meta setup everyone is using which is why i always suggest going for the standard.
i post this 95/99 setup for the sake of completeness because a lot of people ask for BiS java setup.
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Sep 25 2025 03:08am
tldr


garbage build no cap
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Sep 25 2025 04:09am
garbage build no cap


??? what's your point, sir?
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Sep 25 2025 05:42am
i don't know how often i need to repeat this. you don't lose pierce at all. for 95/99 setup you tele on switch with spirit and use 4 os monarch in main... and obviously you also use razor for 100 pierce!
i know nobody on jsp believes me but 95/99 setup IS the fastest if properly built. i have tested a lot of different setups for quite a while with hero editor.
and sry for repeating but ofc it's only a few % faster than the typical 55/68 meta setup everyone is using which is why i always suggest going for the standard.
i post this 95/99 setup for the sake of completeness because a lot of people ask for BiS java setup.


Don’t call it 99/95 if it’s not.
You don’t ever call any build by a fcr frame that they get on cta side lol
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Sep 25 2025 06:00am
Don’t call it 99/95 if it’s not.
You don’t ever call any build by a fcr frame that they get on cta side lol


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