Those are legal precedents.
Your interpretation of those legal precedents does not change their established ruling.
These precedents are used in future cases, however be mindful that precedents are not always binding.

This is all very important, in the context of our discussion, when one party makes a blanket state such as "hate speech is not freedom of speech".
Because there are established 'laws' in place to protect the 1st amendment from loopholes and or abuse.

This post was edited by Mondain on Sep 17 2025 11:40am

George Washington is rolling in his grave right now.

Trump is celebrating the global totalitarian socialist government.

I'm handing you information but you animals are too stupid to understand.

Walt Disney-owned ABC said it was pulling "Jimmy Kimmel Live" off the air, after comments by the late-night show's host about the assassination of Charlie Kirk triggered a threat by the head of the top US communications regulator against Disney. Kimmel criticized conservatives on Monday for “desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and with everything they can to score political points from it.”

and then we had...

"Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done," Mr Trump said in a post on Truth Social.

so, when we look at the conversation yesterday and we look at this today, what do we conclude? my view is as follows:

The US is deeply divided with two opposing views; Left and Right. Jimmy Kimmel's comments were relatively tame and he would have had no inkling that his comments would lead to this. This is in effect, killing a soldier to scare an army. Therefore this is an abuse of power to stifle free speech. While many here argue that ‘hate speech is just free speech,’ (whether you regard attacks on left/right as hate speech is not relevant) even Donald Trump seems to understand that some speech should be restrained, although NOT for the same reasons (all leftists are bad vs i believe hate speech is bad).



This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 18 2025 05:08am

The right only care about free speech when it is theirs. Other people that criticize the right or trump are fodder for cancellation, firing, prison, etc.

Look at the 5 NFL teams who didn't bend the knee to pay tribute to kirk. Right wing has already called for action against them.

Teachers are being fired for basically saying they don't care about Kirk. I vividly remember seeing hundreds of posts gloating about the MN dems that were assassinated. I didn't think to myself, "better send this to their employer!!!"

ABC demanded that kimmel apologize and PAY TRIBUTE to kirk's radical right wing Turning Point USA. Like, wtf timeline is this?

Oh, and this dude who said we should just kill homeless people ON FOX "NEWS". Where is the outrage?

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Sep 18 2025 07:40pm

America first.

Yesterday:

Oh fuck we deported the farm workers and hospitality workers.

wait so corporations paying slave wages is now a good thing? corporations avoiding payroll tax paying under the table is good? letting millions not pay any tax but get benefits from tax payers is good? send them back make them legal i dont care just stop ripping off everyone else.

Today: Oh yeah, we have 7.4 million unemployed citizens. Surely they can compensate for 200,000k deported illegals.... Surely

Are you new to America? Naturally it's a good thing if you have been following gov't decisions since Reagan. You think suddenly they're going to be using legal workers? Spare me. That would impact food price statistics too negatively.

Well ideally I'm just taking Trump's words from his own interview after farmers have made so much noise. He said he needs to make a order to not deport those ones lmao.

I'd much rather see the unemployed be working. That does not appear to be the plan though.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 19 2025 10:41am