GENETIC FALLACY
The genetic fallacy is the error of judging an argument by its source or history, rather than its content and logic.

my experience with the genetic fallacy usually plays out like this.
"if you were born in a muslim country you would be a muslim. if you were born in a jewish country you would be jewish. you were born in a christian country thats why your christian."

the above statement has some truth. but its not a viable argument determining if any of the beliefs are true or false.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Sep 13 2025 11:20pm

I am glad you are learning logical fallacies that I have taught you over the years.

Yes you correct if someone said that would be considered a genetic fallacy. But there is nuances here you might be not ready to understand.

For example the statement is partially true with one word added it would be considered not a fallacy. "If you were born in a muslim country you would likely be a muslim"
Just like when science says a big bang theory not a big bang. Where you intentionally misrepresent that and say atheists believe in big bang. Thats called strawmanning.

Another nuance is dependant on the validity of the the claim in question.
For example: when the doctor tells you that the voices in your head and Casper the friendly ghost isnt real do you tell him. "Doctor you are using a genetic fallacy on me. You are judging the source of my claims rather than the content and logic"
The doctor politely tells you that magic is not real and administers a dose of sedative medication. The doctor isn't compelled to prove to the patient that ghosts and magical voices aren't real.

You are welcome to provide proof for the doctor to convince him you aren't crazy but until then a doctor will assume otherwise.

do you have conversations like that with your doctor?
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todays logical fallacy is "red herring"
basically red herring is changing the topic of discussion
from experience "red herrings" are almost always brought into play when opponent is losing the argument.
but there is something special about "red herring" you can either call it out and have it dismissed or you can choose to accept it.
sometimes accepting the red herring can strengthen your argument.

Don't need to tell me that you've been using red herrings every time you are pressed to admit when you are wrong. Remember I taught you what they are.

you think you taught me about red herrings because you think your the only one that uses them?
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todays word is "disingenuous"
it can have slightly different meanings but basically its used to call someone dishonest. its also used because its a big word not used or known that much so it can make a person look "learned" but using the word while lacking examples is just another sleaze tactic and makes the user of the word the disingenuous one
(was a common tactic at youtube. havent seen the tactic used here at jsp)

You just love ignoring comments so you can later necro this thread to keep it alive. lmao.

i dont have to do that when i have you to bump my threads

Yet you're doing what I just said you are, so you don't need me. You bump your own threads. My comment didn't bump your thread as it was already at the top.

my other post was about "disingenuous" (curious that you showed up?). had nothing to do with ignoring anything to "necro" a thread.
but i tell you what. just to make things even i will ignore your next post and use it to "necro"

This post was edited by TiStuff on Nov 9 2025 10:14am

nice necro.