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Sep 11 2025 07:14am
I think I've only come across one person who identified as a liberal and defended most of that garbage via "well that's just their culture" and it pretty much matches my expectations of someone who has a degree in sociology lol
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Sep 11 2025 07:43am
No group of people should be starved en masse. Never forget The Nakba.

Israel have and always will be the aggressors. You do not steal land, kill children, imprison children for throwing rocks at your tanks.. without some retribution. Israel threw the first stone in this endless cycle of violence and they are the ones who disproportionately kill innocent people.

Not too long ago Israel blew off a Palestinian baby's head.
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Sep 11 2025 07:46am
The reality is though a lot of liberals do not support Palestine. There are quite a bit that do, yes, but there's just as many who turn a blind eye towards the conflict or say things like "It's complicated"

Btw when a liberal says "it's complicated" he's passively admitting he's okay with genocide, just a friendly reminder.
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Sep 11 2025 08:16am
So that is why all the left-wing and Muslim activists around the world were up in arms when the Saudis bombed Yemen into the stone age?!
Or why they are making so much noise about the ongoing civil war in Sudan...
Or how they're all leading a "boycott divest sanction" movement against China over their genocide of the Uyghurs...


Most people are not left wing Muslim activists. Stop looking at the extreme people in the world and realize that most humans on Earth are simply looking at the situation and feeling bad that humans are dying.
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Sep 11 2025 08:35am
Most people are not left wing Muslim activists. Stop looking at the extreme people in the world and realize that most humans on Earth are simply looking at the situation and feeling bad that humans are dying.


Yes, also a lot of us still stand in solidarity with the Uyghurs. But comparing what is happening to the Uyghurs to the Palestinians is.. really..? Yes what China is doing to them is terrible but it's far preferable to your entire cities, villages, homes being leveled to the ground, including all the hospitals around it.
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Sep 11 2025 01:55pm
Most people are not left wing Muslim activists. Stop looking at the extreme people in the world and realize that most humans on Earth are simply looking at the situation and feeling bad that humans are dying.

I meant left-wing activists and Muslim activists; I wasn't referring specifically to the tiny number of people belonging to both groups. :rolleyes:
It's still a fact that people dying in gaza makes lefties and/or Muslims feel bad at far higher rates than when people die in Yemen, Sudan, Nigeria, Somalia, Myanmar or China.



No group of people should be starved en masse. Never forget The Nakba.

Israel have and always will be the aggressors. You do not steal land, kill children, imprison children for throwing rocks at your tanks.. without some retribution. Israel threw the first stone in this endless cycle of violence and they are the ones who disproportionately kill innocent people.

Not too long ago Israel blew off a Palestinian baby's head.

"Some retribution" doesn't justify going on a medieval killing spree, slaughtering innocent civilians and even foreigners who have nothing to do with Israel's past actions. Nor does it justify taking hostages.


Yes, also a lot of us still stand in solidarity with the Uyghurs. But comparing what is happening to the Uyghurs to the Palestinians is.. really..? Yes what China is doing to them is terrible but it's far preferable to your entire cities, villages, homes being leveled to the ground, including all the hospitals around it.

China is engaging in a "slow-rolling genocide" via forced sterilizations of Uyghur women. Meanwhile, Gaza has one of the highest birth and growth rates on the planet.

Additionally, let's not forget that the Palestinians and their Arab allies have already waged 3 major wars with genocidal intent against Israel, plus keep vowing to attack, kill and eradicate Israel and Israelis whereever and whenever they can. The Uyghurs have shown none such stances against the Chinese government. The level of belligerence obviously determines how harsh a reaction is justified, and Hamas and the Palestinians have acted infinitely more belligerent than the Uyghurs.

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Sep 11 2025 02:22pm
Maybe you haven't followed the news lately, there's plenty conservatives that support ending the genocide in Gaza as well. It's not a political fight, it's a humanitarian one.


I'm guessing you don't know any muslim women.


Isn't this the same in the bible?
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have
committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." People who follow scripture letter by letter these days are called fanatics. Vast majority of muslims are not even remotely fanatical.


Just nonsense. But if you look at america, i think only 1 president in recent time has advocated for a third term.


Isn't it conservatives that are banning books from libaries and schools in the US. I don't disagree with keeping filth out of the schools but the sword swings both ways.


Not a muslim value. Sunan Abi Dawud the prophet said" "those who do not show mercy to our young ones and do not realise the right of our elders are not from us"


No. https://yaqeeninstitute.org/watch/animation/are-honor-killings-an-islamic-phenomenon-animation


Yes once a muslim you cannot leave the faith. It's the final religion and in muslim countries it does carry a punishment. In UAE though they removed the death penalty in 2020 and there's been no known prosecutions of the crime.


So does conservatives.


This is just silly. Womens education in the arab world is on the high rise and there's several profilic doctors, lawyers, ceo's and c-suite executives. My wife (a muslim) has 2 mbas and a doctorate. You have absolutely not clue what you're on about.


This is what israel is doing right now in gaza and west bank.
Raping (yes their prisoners)
Children (yes snipers are targeting them if they cross an imaginary line they put themselves, armed or not)
Parents, grand parents (yes if they are coming for their bodies they get shot too)
They also created a man made famine. Dropped 2000 pound bombs on tents in their own designated safe areas. Burried ambulances after killing everyone to hide their crime. Tripple tapped hospitals to maximize the killing of aid workers and ofc the death toll in gaza alone is now +65000 majority of whom are women and children. Their own leaked inteliigence report suggest that as little as 7700 terrorists have actually been killed making the ratio between combatant and civilian one of the highest in recent time.

I'm sure I've missed some other values that are shared between liberals and Palestine/Muslim theocracy, so please feel free to add your own to the list!

You're completely off the rocks mate. I'm conservative myself but there's no need to make up such silly comparison for the purpose of adding to the division. We're all human.[/QUOTE]

oh thanks you saved me the trouble :)
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Sep 11 2025 06:25pm
you dont need to support one or the other lmao. Palestinians that are being ethical cleansed is bad. hamas terrorists are bad. you shouldn't support israel or hamas. but if youre a decent person you should want the massacre to end. theres almost 200,000 people dead/missing
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Sep 11 2025 06:55pm
No group of people should be starved en masse. Never forget The Nakba.

Israel have and always will be the aggressors. You do not steal land, kill children, imprison children for throwing rocks at your tanks.. without some retribution. Israel threw the first stone in this endless cycle of violence and they are the ones who disproportionately kill innocent people.

Not too long ago Israel blew off a Palestinian baby's head.


Has Israel always been the aggressor tho?

Iirc jews immigrated to the area in addition to ones that have stuck around for a while.
There was tension between the jews and Muslims.
ottomans lost the land to the British after ww2
British passed the buck to the un who carved out a state for Israel and Palestine.
Israel declared independence.
Palestine could've declared independence and that'd have been your two state solution.
Instead the arabs in the region didn't like the idea of a Jewish state in the region they conquered over a thousand years ago and declared war to wipe out Israel.
Here we are 70+ years later
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Sep 11 2025 07:33pm
Has Israel always been the aggressor tho?

Iirc jews immigrated to the area in addition to ones that have stuck around for a while.
There was tension between the jews and Muslims.
ottomans lost the land to the British after ww2
British passed the buck to the un who carved out a state for Israel and Palestine.
Israel declared independence.
Palestine could've declared independence and that'd have been your two state solution.
Instead the arabs in the region didn't like the idea of a Jewish state in the region they conquered over a thousand years ago and declared war to wipe out Israel.
Here we are 70+ years later


Yup. Look up the organizations that existed before the IDF. They were all terrorist paramilitaries with the intention of driving out the non-Jewish Palestinians. They poisoned the water wells. Even the founding father of Israel and first president said they had to expel the Arabs if they were establish their state. (In some case this was Arab Jews as well, but mostly Arab Christians and Muslims.)

When I say they poisoned the water wells. I also mean that literally. They literally poisoned the Palestinian Arabs water supplies. It was one of their first acts of terrorist aggression.

This post was edited by uskittles on Sep 11 2025 07:35pm
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