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Sep 11 2025 06:00am
I guess that until now, Utah Valley University didn't feel the need for the same kind of security as colleges in, say, LA or Chicago...


At least in Minnesota, cheap entry level Colleges like St Cloud State or Winona State even have this.

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Sep 11 2025 06:28am
And since it's so relevant, I'll post it in this thread too:

https://i.imgur.com/8Dd9HGJ.jpeg


Yuppp totally relevant

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Sep 11 2025 06:42am
The argument in favor of gun control is that the broad availability of guns increases the death toll in moments of slipping impulse control. For example when suicidal teenagers snap or family disputes escalate.

The assassination of Charlie Kirk, on the other hand, was a deliberate, cold-blooded, premeditated murder; most definitely out of political reasons. A person callous and motivated enough to pull off such a heinous act would have found other means if guns had genuinely been unavailable. And even that is unrealistic since he/she/zhe would have just used an illegal gun anyway. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with Charlie Kirk's murder and trying to spin this into a "gotcha" is pathetic.


You dont know any of that. Maybe it was a gay kid, or a woman, or an immigrant who heard this guy was coming to their college today. So they walked into pizza hut and got the NRA special medium pizza with free box of ammo.

But you're probably right. He was a right winger who was speaking out about releasing the Epstein files. So they murdered him.
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Sep 11 2025 07:15am
This is the left cheering for him being dead.

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Sep 11 2025 07:17am
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Sep 11 2025 07:28am
I guess that until now, Utah Valley University didn't feel the need for the same kind of security as colleges in, say, LA or Chicago...


Certainly seems like they have ample to extreme levels of coverage.

https://dailyutahchronicle.com/2022/03/20/university-of-utah-video-surveillance-campus/

That's an oldie artcle , probably bolstered again since then.

I wont go delving into the AI response because I don't care. I just have to presume its sort of reality at-least given even Canadian universities have cameras everywhere and have little to no violence on campus.

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University of Utah campus is equipped with a comprehensive video surveillance system, not a lack of cameras. The main campus has over 2,500 video cameras covering areas like dorms, shuttles, classrooms, and outdoor spaces, while the total system, including medical and research facilities, numbers around 4,000 cameras.

As, well just appears to be well covered up, so good footage potentially, but just well hidden idenitity as far as we know:

"Mason adds that officials have been able to trace the shooters movement after the attack: “He moved to the other side of the building, jumped off of the building, and fled off of the campus into a neighborhood.”

He goes on to say that investigators “do have good video footage of this individual”, but said they would not release the footage at this time. “We’re working through some technologies and some ways to identify this individual. If we are unsuccessful, we will reach out to you as the media, and we will push that publicly to help us identify them,” he says."

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Sep 11 2025 07:36am
My favorite garbage take so far is, "we dont know if it was a supporter shooting there guns in celebration" comment by MSNBC analyst Matthew Dowd.

Anyone heard a better one yet?


he deserved to be sacked for that, and anyone that disagrees with that assessment has a screw loose.

also clarification, comment by FORMER MSNBC analyst.

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Sep 11 2025 07:46am
he deserved to be sacked for that, and anyone that disagrees with that assessment has a screw loose.

also clarification, comment by FORMER MSNBC analyst.


Reminds me of when trump got shot the left news headlines were originally "trump falls at rally" or "trump rushed off stage". I didn't even vote for the guy but holy shit the bias is astounding in the media today.
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Sep 11 2025 07:49am
Righties clutching their pearls hard today. Where is this energy and outrage for innocent people dying across the world? All the victims of Israeli genocide of Gaza? All the victims of school shootings? Family's being torn apart by Trump's insane policies?

Oh right. They only care when rich white influential people die. Oh well.

This post was edited by uskittles on Sep 11 2025 07:49am
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Reminds me of when trump got shot the left news headlines were originally "trump falls at rally" or "trump rushed off stage". I didn't even vote for the guy but holy shit the bias is astounding in the media today.


yes i remember that. something seriously wrong with a broadcaster/group when they spout stuff like that.

Righties clutching their pearls hard today. Where is this energy and outrage for innocent people dying across the world? All the victims of Israeli genocide of Gaza? All the victims of school shootings? Family's being torn apart by Trump's insane policies?

Oh right. They only care when rich white influential people die. Oh well.


Feel free to visit the Israeli thread, I have not been quiet in there, much to certain ppls consternation.

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