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Sep 11 2025 05:41am
It might be me but sadism and glee about other people suffering might not be the best way forward.


Why is normalizing compassion for those that are truly evil and a blight on society ok? All over these forums people say “If you support Trump you must be ok with predators”… what’s good for the goose is good for the gander here… if you have compassion for a sicko you too must fit the mold.

We aren’t going to sit here and cherry pick the bs. It’s either like that or not. If you are evil you deserve to suffer. Period.
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Sep 11 2025 05:41am
And since it's so relevant, I'll post it in this thread too:

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Sep 11 2025 05:42am
My favorite garbage take so far is, "we dont know if it was a supporter shooting there guns in celebration" comment by MSNBC analyst Matthew Dowd.

Anyone heard a better one yet?
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Sep 11 2025 05:42am
Here in Germany, official government statistics on crime show asyulm seekers from countries like Syria, Afghanistan, Algeria or Tunisia to perpetrate sexual violence, battery and knife crimes at vastly disproportionate rates even after you account for demographic factors like the higher share of young males in these groups. Of course the government and the MSM barely ever talk about this fact.


Do you have data for that? Last time I checked statistas datasets were not granular enough for that analysis, at least the freely available.

Edit: note that not only age and gender are deciding factors here, you also need some measure for the "loser" qualification. Probably lack of higher education as the best possibly available proxy? Or monthly net income I guess.

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Sep 11 2025 05:45am
Why is normalizing compassion for those that are truly evil and a blight on society ok? All over these forums people say “If you support Trump you must be ok with predators”… what’s good for the goose is good for the gander here… if you have compassion for a sicko you too must fit the mold.

We aren’t going to sit here and cherry pick the bs. It’s either like that or not. If you are evil you deserve to suffer. Period.


You realize that "I don't want a pedophile rapist to be the most powerful man in the world" and "I do not want unneccessary suffering for people, even if they have done something evil in their lifes" are two believes that are very easy to be held at the same time? Trump should be removed from office and prosecuted, not tortured to death.
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Sep 11 2025 05:49am
Do you have data for that? Last time I checked statistas datasets were not granular enough for that analysis, at least the freely available.


It is of course not shown verbatim in the crime stats, but very easily implied when you look the absolute numbers of various crimes by nationality and contrast them with the rough estimate of the number of young men in the corresponding subgroups. Not sure if links to statistical tables in German, or blog posts doing this math, will be of much help to you. But I'll try to find a non-paywalled media article touching on this topic later today.
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Sep 11 2025 05:49am
No suspect in custody... Utah campus not have public safety camera all over?
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Sep 11 2025 05:51am
It is of course not shown verbatim in the crime stats, but very easily implied when you look the absolute numbers of various crimes by nationality and contrast them with the rough estimate of the number of young men in the corresponding subgroups. Not sure if links to statistical tables in German, or blog posts doing this math, will be of much help to you. But I'll try to find a non-paywalled media article touching on this topic later today.


Blog post with maths and data are perfect, understanding those is literally part of my job. As edited above, make sure we are talking about young men with no perspective, not all young men in general.
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Sep 11 2025 05:52am
No suspect in custody... Utah campus not have public safety camera all over?


I guess that until now, Utah Valley University didn't feel the need for the same kind of security as colleges in, say, LA or Chicago...
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You realize that "I don't want a pedophile rapist to be the most powerful man in the world" and "I do not want unneccessary suffering for people, even if they have done something evil in their lifes" are two believes that are very easy to be held at the same time? Trump should be removed from office and prosecuted, not tortured to death.


I realize you can HAVE those beliefs. I’m saying they are absolutely counter productive to hold them together morally. The crime and victimization happening in this world are because we are too afraid to inflict suffering on criminals.

They know we are lax.

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